Jesus-allows lying/deception


In the name of Allāh,
the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Peace and Blessings of Allāh on Mohammad.
Allāh–the Glorious and the High,
Lord of the worlds
Mohammad–who brought the world
to our feet and eternity to our arms.

                                   JESUS–ALLOWS LYING/DECEPTION
                                                (See also Islam-and lying)
While, understandably, a person can lie about his belief in God to save himself from suffering or being killed.
Christians have authority from their God, Son of God (Jesus) and their Saint (Paul) to lie/deceive in all matters to save themselves and spreading their fake religion.

1. Christians have authority from their God to lie/deceive:
In 1 Kings chapter 22, King Ahab wanted to know if he would be successful in the battle of Ramoth-gilead. Confused, because he was getting conflicting answers from his “prophets,” King Ahab summoned Micaiah, even though he disliked Micaiah because the latter does not give him favorable answers. Micaiah prophesied that king Ahab would be killed and the Israelites defeated–(22:17).
This upset King Ahab. He wanted to know how it is that he gets conflicting answers from his prophets and Micaiah. Micaiah replied that he had a vision of the Court of God about God asking which one of his spirits will tell King Ahab that he must go to battle and be killed. The spirits all came up with one story or the other to convince King Ahab. Then one clever spirit elected to do the job by being a “lying spirit in the mouth of all these prophets. And he (God) said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a LYING spirit in the mouth of all these prophets, and the LORD hath spoken EVIL concerning thee”–(22:17-23. Incidentally, Micaiah was sent to prison for his prophecy. King Ahab was killed in accordance with the decree of God as prophesied by Micaiah).
As Christians say Jesus is God this is what Jesus allowed –to lie/deceive.

2. Christians have authority from their Son of God, Jesus to lie/deceive:
Jesus counsels his followers:
“Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison”–(Matt.5:25). Wonder what Nelson Mandela, modern-day anti-Apartheid icon, would say about this dictum: he may have saved himself thirty years jail; and his brother-in-cause, Steve Biko, may be alive; and South Africa may still be in “prison”–Apartheid).

So for fear of imprisonment, a Christian must agree to frame an innocent man for murder and send him to the gallows. The Christian nations that acquiesced to or supported German invasion were only following Jesus’ precept to “agree” with their “adversary.” And Christian individuals who handed Jews over to the Germans should be honored for obeying Jesus to “agree” with their adversary.
(Perhaps this is why the Vatican was silent during Hitler’s reign, for fear of violating Jesus’ decree to agree with the adversary. Jesus says in Luke 19:27 and Matthew 12:30: “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me” and “He that is not with me is against me”,  perhaps these also are reasons why the Vatican was silent when “Christian” Europe was being purged of Jewish presence).

Jesus saying to agree with the “adversary” could not be about, or restricted to, a law-suit (Jesus clearly says to give the suer your cloak as well as coat–Matthew 5:40).  A suer would not necessarily receive judgment in his favor so that one would have to agree with him.
This injunction of Jesus gives Christians a hole so big to accommodate every conceivable lie and deception and for any situation that the battleships Iowa Jima and Lincoln can sail side by side through it. And with mega space to spare. With this permission Christians can even frame an innocent person all the way to the executioner’s needle just so they would not be thrown in jail.
Sure the Bible says not to bear false witness, but clearly this is superseded by Jesus (who is said to be son of God and even “God”) for “Christians” to have no borders when it comes to saving their hide. Moreover, Jesus came some five hundred years AFTER Moses.

Jesus lied; telling his followers: “Go ye up unto this feast, for my time is not yet full come,” “But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret”–(John 7:8-10).
Clearly, Jesus did not want to go with his followers (because he was fearful, likely because he knew the Jews were out to kill him and would be easily observed in the company of his followers who were commonly known) and lied that he would be going later; but soon as they had gone from him he left for the feast: “But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also.”
It is an absurdity to claim that Jesus was saying  “I am not going,” but mean “I am not going yet” (as one Christian apologetic claims) seeing that Jesus “also” went but in secret.  Clearly, Jesus did want to be in their company: then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.

3. Christians have authority from their Saint, Paul, to lie/deceive:
Paul says,
And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved. But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile”–(2 Corinthians 12:15-16, There are many “versions” of the Bible some of which try to obfuscate that Paul says “being crafty, I caught you with guile”1).
“For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged a sinner?”–(1 Corinthians 7:25; Romans 3:7.  It is not “faithfulness” to forge in the name of God and to have people glorify God through lies. God calls man to belief through “reason” and truth, not through deception and “lie.” One who propagates Godliness through “guile” and “lie” could not be apostle of Christ, much more messenger of God. See Allāh and Jesus or Paul).

Perhaps it is this un-principle of Paul to “lie” that lead Christians to retain forged verses in the Bible and to keep such materials as “virgin” of virgin birth and “begotten” of “begotten son,” etc; in their 1500 non-English Bibles that they have expunged from English ones. Ahmed Deedat has shown in his booklet Is the Bible God’s Word?

  • the word “VIRGIN” in Isaiah 7:14 has been replaced with the phrase “a young woman” in the RSV Bible. (That “virgin” birth, asserted in Luke 1:34-35, is a forgery see Jesus-birth miracle or mechanix?).
  • the word “BEGOTTEN” of “begotten son” of John 3:16, has been “excised;”
  • the verse of 1-John 5:7 which speaks of the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost (the Trinity) “has also been scrapped from the RSV” Bible;
  • the verses of Mark 16:19 and Luke 24:51 which refer to the Ascension of Jesus were “expunged” but later “restored to the text.”2
    Deedat also notes that while these terms have been “unceremoniously excised” from English Bibles, they are retained in the Bible’s nearly 1500 other languages.

Perhaps this is where the Church got its inspiration to teach doctrines Trinityinherited sin and vicarious atonement– that God did not reveal; and which propelled Pope John XXIII, when cornered with irrefutable evidence that the body (of Christ) in the Shroud of Turin was not a dead body, to proclaim that “the death of Jesus Christ is not essential for belief in the “blood of Christ.” (See Bible corrupt & obsolete; Jesus-inherited sin to ascension).

Evidently, Christians are licensed to lie/deceive in material as well as in theological matters.
Are such the works of divine messengers or devil disciples? Are they works of decency and dignity or of dishonesty and deception?

Another glaring instance of Christian deception is, as noted by Muhammad Ali in his book The Religion Of Islam:
“Commenting on the well-known confession of Christ, “Why callest thou me good, (Mark 10:18) Dummelow says that in the Revised Version of Matthew, Christ’s reply is, “Why askest thou me concerning that which is good”; and adds: “The author of Matthew….altered the text slightly, to prevent the reader from supposing that Christ denied that He was good.” (p. 212, f/n).

This saying of Jesus in Matthew 19:16-17 has been altered. The first quote in the following is from the Self-Pronouncing Bible3 the second is from the Gideons Bible.4 Italic words in “red” show alteration, underlined words in bold are not in the Gideons Bible:

   (1)  “one came and said unto him (Jesus), Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is God: but…”
(2)  “one came to Him (Jesus) and said, Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life? And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but…”

Even their forgery is clumsy: who better is there to tell or to ask “what is good” than God or the “Son of God.”
Is it not telling a “lie” on God that He revealed the changed words? Is it not telling a “lie” on Jesus that he uttered the changed words?
It is not goodness to tell a “lie” on God or His prophet. It is Hell-Fire: “But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation”–(Mark 3:29).

It is doubtful a devotee of God would alter his Book of God and propagate falsehood in the name of God, the very God from Whom he seeks his daily bread and on Whose right hand he wishes to sit.
It is doubtful that God would take kindly to one who alters His Book and propagates falsehood. And take even less kindly to those who knowingly adhere to this falsehood.
It is not loyalty to God or Jesus, or honor to them, to ascribe falsehood to them.

Perhaps it is not incorrect to reason that one who would tell a lie on God and on a prophet of God, that such a person would have no qualms about lying to man. Be aware: “God’s anger is revealed against…. the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known”–(Romans 1:18).

Interestingly, The Gideons state: “This Book (Bible) reveals the mind of God” “Its doctrines are Holy, its precepts are binding…and its decisions are immutable”–(gold cover, 1985 edition).
This is amusing.
How can the Bible be the “mind of God” when the Bible declares that “The lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie;” when Paul forged his own gospel and propagated through “lie” and “guile; and the Bible has been altered and contains “forgeries”?

How can the Bible’s “decisions” be “immutable” and “binding” when adulterers are to be executed but David was not for dallying with Uriah’s wife, Bathsheba;5 and God gave David’s wives to be ‘adulterated” on6; and Solomon and his son had a harem of concubines?7
And when God says not to bear false witness but Jesus says, as noted above, to agree with your adversary (which would entail bearing false witness) to avoid “prison” time?

Where is the “Holy” in God being in the womb of a woman He created and emerging from her vagina? And in the injustice of loading Adam’s sin onto innocent babies and having an innocent man killed for sinners?
And in God saying not to kill but made Himself complicit in murder by sending Jesus to be killed? (Seems in Christendom words have been robbed of their worth).
Such is Christianity –rooted in falsehood nourished on deception.

To repeat. It is not loyalty to God or Jesus, or honor to them, to ascribe falsehood to them.
May Allāh God guide these woefully misguided and blaspheming Christians into the Divine truth: There is no God but Allāh; Mohammad is the Messenger of Allāh!

1. That there are many “versions” of the Bible some of which try to obfuscate that Paul says “being crafty, I caught you with guile. I only quote verse 16 which is the critical verse:

  • King James Version (KJV) “But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.”
  • New International Version (NIV):Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery!”
  • English Standard Version (ESV): “But granting thatI myself did not burden you, I was crafty, you say, and got the better of you by deceit.”
  • New Living Translation (NLT): “Some of you admit I was not a burden to you. But others still think I was sneaky and took advantage of you by trickery.”
  • International Standard Version (ISV): “Granting that I have not been a burden to you, was I a clever schemer who trapped you by some trick?”
  • God’s Word Translation (GWT): “You agree, then, that I haven’t been a burden to you. Was I a clever person who trapped you by some trick?”
  • Weymouth New Testament: “If I love you so intensely, am I the less to be loved? Be that as it may: I was not a burden to you. But being by no means scrupulous, I entrapped you, they say!
    (Source, Internet).
  1. Regarding Jesus’ alleged Ascension. Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din reveals in his Open Letters To The Bishops of Salisbury & London, (pp. 31-32):

 “The concluding eleven verses of St. Mark-(16:9-20) and the well-known verse of St. Matthew-(28:19), speaking of the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost, are forgeries, an admitted addition to the ancient MSS (manuscripts). The fact was discovered by the first translator of the Bible into English and they made a marginal note in their version of the Bible which continued for some time. But we do not find the said note in any of the copies now published by the said society (Foreign Mission Society). Is it fair and honest to keep others in darkness as to the true value of the contents of the Bible? The reader must know that concluding portion of St. Mark and the verse in St. Matthew are spurious and a subsequent addition. But I am afraid the Foreign Mission would not allow the correction. It would tell against their very Mission, if they eliminate the verse from St. Matthew; they lose the only pillar that supports the structure of the Trinity. No other verse in the whole Scripture speaks of it. The said eleven verses of St. Mark are the only justification for the existence of the Foreign Mission. You, as well as I, know, my Lord, that the call to Jesus came solely and wholly from Judaism. He came only to gather the scattered sheep and would not give the children’s bread to the dogs, the world beyond the Israelites. The Foreign Mission is a mere trespass on lands forbidden by the Master. It transcends the limit marked by Jesus. Throughout his life the Gentiles and others did not concern him: they were the swine. Then came the make-believe Resurrection, and they say the Master changed his mind as to his mission and ordered it to be carried to the four corners of the world (indicating that he was unsure of his mission), but this all depends upon the questionable verses of St. Mark, and hence their retention  in the Bible. St. Matthew is no authority on this point. The word “nations” there is a mistranslation and a wrong substitute for “the tribes”–the rest of the Jewish tribes scattered all over the world. This being the case, the Mission cannot afford to eliminate the verses from their version, nor will they put marginal notes, as did the old versions, to show the true nature of the verses. It would weaken the cause and show the futility of their status, since in carrying on evangelical work in the non-Christian world they are acting against the express admonition of the Master. It may be that reasons other than religion are at the back of it all, and goading their activities, but decency, if not religion, assuredly demands the publishing of things as they are.”  (Colors added. For more on this see Bible corrupt & obsolete).

3. Pub; The World Publishing Company, Cleve; 2, Ohio.
4. Pub; The Lockman Foundation, La Habra, California.
5. David dallying with Bathsheba:
“Then it happened one evening that David arose from his bed and walked on the roof of the king’s house. And from the roof he saw a woman bathing, and the woman was very beautiful to behold.  So David sent and inquired about the woman. And someone said, “Is this not Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?”  Then David sent messengers, and took her; and she came to him, and he lay with her, for she was cleansed from her impurity; and she returned to her house.  And the woman conceived; so she sent and told David, and said, “I am with child” –(2 Samuel 11:2-5).

6. God gave David’s wives to his neighbor to have sex with them:
“This is what the LORD says: “‘Listen very carefully! “‘I’m raising up evil against you right out of your own household. “‘I’m going to take your wives away from you right before your eyes. “‘Then I’ll give them to your neighbor. “‘And then he’s going to have sex with your wives in broad daylight!”–(2 Samuel 12:11. International Standard Version).

7. Solomon had “seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines (1 Kings 11:3. And Solomon is said to be “wise”). Rehoboam, Solomon’s son, had “eighteen wives and three score concubines” (2 Chr. 11:21).
(And Christians crab at Mohammad for having some 13-30 wives depending on who you believe. And Mohammad’s reasons for polygamy was fully justified. See Mohammad-and Moulood).