{"id":4529,"date":"2020-06-16T15:33:41","date_gmt":"2020-06-16T15:33:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=4529"},"modified":"2024-07-30T16:20:27","modified_gmt":"2024-07-30T16:20:27","slug":"mohammad-and-thighing","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=4529","title":{"rendered":"Mohammad and Thighing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">In the name of All\u0101h,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">the Beneficent, the Merciful.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: red; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">DEDICATED TO<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">All\u0101h\u2013the Glorious and the High,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Lord of the worlds<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: red; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">AND TO<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Mohammad\u2013who brought the world<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">to our feet and eternity to our arms.<br \/>\n*<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<span style=\"font-size: 18pt;\">MOHAMMAD AND THIGHING<\/span><br \/>\n<\/span>Whereas Islam does not give a specific age for marriage, the age of marriage is identified with the age of majority: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u201cAnd test the orphans until they reach the marriage <em>(nikah).<\/em> Then if you find in them maturity of intellect, make over to them their property, and consume it not extravagantly and hastily, against their growing up\u201d\u2013(Qur\u2019an 4:6).<\/span> Thus the age of marriage is linked to the age of maturity of intellect.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0 It may be noted that throughout the centuries the age of sexual consent\/engagement has been all over the globe. I note a few examples from <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/discover-the-truth.com\/%20013\/09\/09\/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history\/\">https:\/\/discover-the-truth.com\/ 013\/09\/09\/age-of-consent-in-european-american-history\/<\/a><\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u00a0\u00a0 -\u201cIn Medieval and early <\/span>modern European societies, the age of marriage remained low,\u00a0<strong>with documented cases of brides as young as seven years, although marriages were typically not consummated until the girl reached puberty<\/strong>\u00a0(Bullough 2004).\u2026.The situation was similar on the other side of the Atlantic; Bullough reports the case in 1689 of a nine-year-old bride in Virginia. At the start of the <strong>nineteenth century in England, it was legal to have sex with a 10 year-old girl<\/strong>.\u201d\u00a0<strong>[2]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0\u00a0 -\u201cIn 1962, the American Law Institute recommended that the legal age of consent to sex- that is, the age below which sex is defined as statutory rape- be dropped in every state to age 10 (Katchadourian and Lund 1972: 439).\u00a0<strong>In fact, until the mid 1960s, the legal age of consent in Delaware was 7<\/strong>\u00a0(Kling, 1965: 216). So a 50 year old man could legally have sexual intercourse with a 7 year old boy or girl.\u201d\u00a0<strong>[6]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0-\u201cUntil the late 20th century U.S. age of consent laws specifically names males as perpetrators and females as victims. Following English law, in which the age was set at 12 in 1275 and lowered to 10 in 1576, ages of consent in the American colonies were generally set at 10 or 12\u2026.. <strong>If two people were married<\/strong>\u00a0and had sex,\u00a0<strong>no matter what their age, no crime was committed<\/strong>\u00a0because a woman was her husband\u2019s property.\u201d\u00a0<strong>[3]<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">\u00a0 \u00a0-\u201cAt what age is a person capable of making and informed decision about whether or not to engage in sex? Would it be 7,10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, or 21? <strong>Over the last 300 years, all the ages listed above were thought to be that magic age at which one could make such a decision<\/strong>, and all the ages listed above have, at various times, been inscribed into law as the age of consent to sex.\u201d\u00a0<strong>[13]<br \/>\n<\/strong><span style=\"color: #800080;\">How wisely Islam has left this choice to sex to the individual\u2019s intellect.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">The Prophet Mohammad was born into a custom that engaged in child marriages. As he could not change a practice of society until he received Divine revelation, the Prophet by marrying \u2018Aisha and delaying consummation of his marriage to her, he was hoping to change society of pre-teen marriages by his action.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Critics claim the Prophet engaged in \u201cthighing\u201d <span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u2013simulated sex, with the penis between the thighs\u2013<\/span> with \u2018Aishah. But there is no explicit saying of the Prophet or \u2018Aishah to support this. The <em>fatwas<\/em>\/rulings by Muslim scholars that critics use to support their claim, these\u00a0<em>fatwas<\/em>\/rulings have no basis in hadith.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">That the Prophet <em>fondled\u00a0<\/em>and\u00a0<em>covered his wife\u2019s private part with cloth<\/em>\u00a0during her menses and his wife\u00a0<em>wash semen off his clothes<\/em>\u00a0do not mean he engaged in \u201cthighing\u201d; <span style=\"color: #800080;\">this is supposition.<\/span> Even if there was explicit evidence, why do critics make it a problem with a man engaging in private practice with his WIFE<em>?\u00a0<span style=\"color: #800080;\">(Do you not fondle your wife\/husband? you should;\u00a0 someone else might fondle her\/him for you<\/span><\/em><span style=\"color: #800080;\">).\u00a0<\/span> Moreover, \u201cthighing\u201d would be a blessing to the girl in that it afforded her time to mature, and a blessing to the husband in that it helped him to develop patience and self-control.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Whereas critics try to denigrate Mohammad for intimate marital acts, the Bible, as shown below, allows taking virgin little girls as war \u201cbooty\u201d <span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u2013and you can bet your bottom\u00a0<em>mite\u00a0<\/em>or\u00a0<em>piaster\u00a0<\/em>\u00a0the soldiers who possessed these \u201cvirgins\u201d did not engage in \u201cthighing\u201d with the girls but went the w\u201chole\u201d way with them.\u00a0<\/span> Where are the critics on this?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Incidentally. Perhaps these critics, some of whom may be women, engage in cunnilingus, fellatio, analingus <span style=\"color: #800080;\">\u2013coming in contact with body fluid\/matter\u2013\u00a0<\/span>and have sex with dogs. And if the woman with whom the man performs cunnilingus was with another man prior to coming to him, the latter man might be ingesting the first man\u2019s deposit. And they bellyache about \u201cthighing\u201d).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #800080; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">This practice of pre-teen marriage did end, as Muhammad Ali notes:<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">\u201cthere is no case on record showing that the marriage of a minor through his or her guardian was allowed by the Prophet after details of the law were revealed to him at Madinah. His own marriage with \u2018Aishah which took place when she was nine years of age, is sometimes looked upon as sanctioning the marriage of a minor through his guardian, but there are two points worth consideration in this matter. In the first place, \u2018Aishah\u2019s\u00a0<i>nikah\u00a0<\/i>at nine was tantamount only to an engagement, because the consummation of marriage was postponed for full five years, to allow her, no doubt, to attain majority.\u00a0 In the second place, \u2018Aishah\u2019s\u00a0<i>nikah\u00a0<\/i>was performed in Makkah long before the details of the Islamic law were revealed to the Prophet, and therefore her marriage at nine can be no argument for the marriage of a minor.\u201d(<i>The Religion of Islam<\/i>, p.\u00a0 601).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt; color: #800080;\">Muslims who marry minors have no recourse to Islam for such a marriage. The Prophet\u2019s marriage to \u2018Aisha is no precedent for Muslims. The Prophet not only postponed consummation of his marriage to \u2018Aisha, he also married women of advanced age, and had their free consent. He was not pandering to prurient desire(s).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"color: #800080; font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Bible and sex-slaves:<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">\u201cThen the Lord spake unto Moses, saying\u2026And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses, and they slew ALL THE MALES\u2026.And they brought the CAPTIVES and the prey and the spoil to Moses, and Eleazar\u2026<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">And Moses said unto them\u2026Now therefore kill every MALE among the LITTLE ONES (<span style=\"color: #800080;\">even babies,<\/span> of the captives), and kill EVERY WOMAN who hath known man by lying with him <span style=\"color: #800080;\"><em>(to know who\u00a0 were virgins the soldiers must have had to physically examine\/finger them<\/em> <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u2013<em>one TV program on Africa showed teenage school-girls made to lie on the ground and a woman sticking her finger up them to ensure intact hymen)<\/em>,<\/span><\/span>\u00a0 but ALL THE WOMEN CHILDREN, that have not known a man by lying with him (virgin girls) KEEP ALIVE FOR YOURSELVES \u2026<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Take the sum of the PREY (BOOTY) that was taken, both of MAN and of beast, thou and Eleazar\u2026And divide the PREY into two parts; between them that took the war upon them, who went out to battle, and between all the congregation And LEVY A TRIBUTE UNTO THE LORD\u2026.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">And the BOOTY, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught was 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, and 61,000 asses, and of WOMEN that had not known man by lying with him <span style=\"color: #800080;\">(virgin girls), were 32,000.<\/span> And the half, which was the portion of them that went out to war, was 337,500 sheep; 36,000 cattle, 30,500 asses, <span style=\"color: #800080;\">and 16,000 persons (virgin girls).<\/span> And of the congregation\u2019s half portion of these 16.000 virgin girls, 320 were given to the Levite priests, as \u201cthe Lord commanded Moses.\u201d<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">And the LORD\u2019S TRIBUTE (of the (booty) was 675 sheep; 72 cattle; 61 donkeys; and 32 persons\u2026.the men of war had taken SPOIL (BOOTY), <span style=\"color: #800080;\">EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF<\/span>\u201d\u2013(Numbers chapter 31.<br \/>\nSurely, these 16,000 young \u201cvirgin\u201d girls who were \u201cbooty\u2019 were taken by the \u201cwarriors\u201d not for cooking and farming and ploughing fields; the older women were suited for this. And the 320 given to the Levite priests could have hardly been for \u201caltar\u201d girl service. And as Christians say Jesus is God, then according to Christians it was Jesus who commanded that these little virgin girls be taken as sex slaves and seemingly even assigned some for himself \u2013<span style=\"color: #800080;\">the LORD\u2019S TRIBUTE (of the booty) 32 persons<\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">Sex with these little virgin girls do not violate &#8220;thou shalt not commit adultery&#8221;; Solomon and his son, Rehoboam, <span style=\"color: #800080;\">who came after Moses,<\/span> had 360 concubines between them; in which event they should have been stoned. And so should have David for dallying with Uriah&#8217;s wife, Bathsheba.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\">(Numbers chapter 31 was combined from two different translations to make it easy to understand).<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: 'times new roman', times, serif; font-size: 14pt;\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\">(For more on this topic see<\/span>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=602\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u2018Aisha &amp; Mohammad<\/span><span style=\"color: #800080;\">).<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the name of All\u0101h, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad. DEDICATED TO All\u0101h\u2013the Glorious and the High, Lord of the worlds AND TO Mohammad\u2013who brought the world to our feet and eternity to our arms. * \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0MOHAMMAD AND THIGHING Whereas Islam [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-4529","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/4529","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4529"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/4529\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6939,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/4529\/revisions\/6939"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4529"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}