{"id":398,"date":"2015-02-26T03:31:40","date_gmt":"2015-02-26T03:31:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/azmi.co\/cust\/ngba-wp\/?page_id=398"},"modified":"2021-08-28T15:59:31","modified_gmt":"2021-08-28T15:59:31","slug":"islam-apostasy","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=398","title":{"rendered":"Islam-apostasy"},"content":{"rendered":"

In the name of All\u0101h,
\n<\/span>the Beneficent, the Merciful.
\n<\/span>Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.
\n<\/span>DEDICATED TO
\n<\/span>All\u0101h\u2013the Glorious and the High,
\n<\/span>Lord of the worlds
\n<\/span>AND TO
\n<\/span>Mohammad\u2013who brought the world
\n<\/span>to our feet and eternity to our arms.
\n* <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\n<\/span>The Qur\u2019an was revealed over a period of twenty-three years; during this long period, unless he received Divine Revelation in the matter, the Prophet followed the teachings of the Bible, which requires death to the adulterer, the unchaste bride, the apostate the blasphemer and the homosexuals; which Biblical laws were annulled by subsequent Qur\u2019anic revelations\u2013(Qur\u2019an 2:106; 16:101. See Muhammad Ali\u2019s comm. His translation of the Qur\u2019an can be viewed online: <\/span>www.muslim.org<\/a><\/span>).
\nHadith are to be understood as to the time frame they were given and the background. After revelation on the matter there was no going back to the old order. <\/span>Prophet Mohammad taught according to the Qur\u2019an\u2013(Qur\u2019an 10:15; 21:45; 46:9; 53:3-4). Whatever contradicts with the Qur\u2019an is to be discarded; the Qur\u2019an supersedes all other sources of guidance.\u00a0<\/span>
\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 There is no penalty of \u201cdeath\u201d for the apostates. This is made clear by the following Qur\u2019anic statements:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAnd whoever of you turns back from his religion,
\nthen he <\/span>dies while an unbeliever
\n<\/i>\u2013these it is whose works go for nothing in this
\nworld and the Hereafter\u201d
\n<\/span>\u201cHow shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved
\nafter their believing,
\n<\/span>and (after) they had borne witness that
\nthe Messenger was true and clear
\narguments had come to them?\u201d
\n<\/span>(Qur\u2019an 2:217; 3:85).
\n<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cThose who believe then disbelieve,
\n<\/span>again believe and again disbelieve,
\n<\/span>then increase in disbelief,
\nAllah will never forgive them nor
\nguide them in the (right) way.\u201d
\n<\/span>(Qur\u2019an 4:137)
\n(If apostates were to be killed there would be no question of them \u201cbelieving\u201d then \u201cdisbelieving\u201d then \u201cbelieving again\u201d as 4:137 says\u201d).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cWhoso disbelieves in All\u0101h
\nafter his belief\u2013not he who is
\n<\/span>compelled while his heart is content with
\nfaith, but he who opens (his) breast for disbelief
\n\u2013on them is the wrath of All\u0101h
\nand for them is a grievous chastisement.\u201d
\n(Qur\u2019an 16:106).
\n<\/span>(The wrath of All\u0101h is on them; not that they are to be killed).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The Prophet governed by the Qur\u2019an\u2013(10:15; 21:45; 53:3-4).\u00a0Prior to Qur\u2019anic revelation on a subject the prophet was required to govern according to the Torah. Killing of apostates would have been prior to the above noted Qur\u2019anic injunctions, in which event the Prophet was following the Bible which requires death to apostates:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAnd that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death;<\/i> because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt\u2026.If thy brother\u2026entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou has t not known, thou, nor thy fathers\u2026thou shalt surely kill him<\/i>\u2026..\u201d (Deuteronomy 13:5-16).
\n\u00a0\u201cIf there be found among you\u2026man or woman\u2026.And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded\u2026..Then thou shalt bring forth that man or that woman \u2026and shalt <\/span>stone them with stones, till they die<\/i>.\u201d (Deuteronomy 17:2-5). <\/span>(This is one of the Biblical laws that the Qur\u2019an has abrogated\u2013(Qur\u2019an 2:106 16:101. See <\/span>Qur\u2019an-abrogation & collecting<\/a><\/span>). \u00a0<\/span> \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Regarding the report about the Prophet Mohammad ordering the death of the men of Ukl who had accepted Islam and who later killed the camel-herders and stole the camels. These thieves\/killers were not necessarily apostates. Muslims of today seem to be killing Muslims for less than camels; and they are not apostates. Even if these killers of the camel-herders were apostates from Islam and if initially apostates were given the death penalty (as per the Torah), the revelation of the above Qur\u2019anic verses would have put an end to such a practice. The Qur\u2019an supersedes all other sources of guidance.<\/span><\/p>\n

There is no compulsion<\/span> in religion
\n<\/span>(Qur\u2019an 2:256; 6:107; 9:6; 10:99-100; 17:7; 18:6, 29; 50:45; 76:3; 109:1-6).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Stoning and death is the Jewish and Christian law:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1. (Apostasy<\/i><\/strong>): Those who \u201csecretly\u201d entice another to follow an unknown God are to be stoned to death:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAnd that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death;<\/i> because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt\u2026.If thy brother\u2026entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers\u2026thou shalt surely kill him<\/i>\u201d\u2013(Deut; 13:5-16).
\n\u00a0 \u00a0\u201cIf there be found among you\u2026man or woman\u2026. And hath gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, either the sun or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded\u2026..Then thou shalt bring forth that man or that woman \u2026and shalt <\/span>stone them with stones, till they die<\/i>\u201d\u2013(Deut; 17:2-5).\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

2. A \u201cstubborn and rebellious son\u201d is to be stoned to death\u2013(Deut. 21:18-21).<\/span><\/p>\n

3. (Honor killings<\/i><\/strong>): Married damsel without the \u201ctoken of virginity\u201d is to be stoned to death: \u201cBut if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity <\/i>be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father\u2019s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die:<\/i> because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father\u2019s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you\u201d\u2013(Deut. 22:20-21 Notably, the man with whom she played the \u201cwhore\u201d is not stoned).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

4. A virginal damsel who lies with a man other than her \u201cbetrothed,\u201d both are to be stoned to death\u2013(Deut. 22:23-24).<\/span><\/p>\n

5. A witch is to be put to death\u2013(Exodus 22:18).<\/span><\/p>\n

6. Who curses his father or mother is to be put to death\u2013(Lev. 20:9).<\/span><\/p>\n

7. Punishment for adultery is death\u2013(Lev. 20:10-12; Deut. 22:22).<\/span><\/p>\n

8. Homosexuals are to be put to death\u2013(Lev. 20:13).<\/span><\/p>\n

9. A man who takes a \u201cwife and her mother,\u201d both shall be burnt with fire\u2013(Lev. 20:14).<\/span><\/p>\n

10. Who commits bestiality is to be put to death\u2013(Lev. 20:15-16).<\/span><\/p>\n

11. (Blasphemy):<\/i><\/strong> \u201cAnd the Israelitish woman\u2019s son blasphemed the name of the Lord, and cursed\u2026.And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying\u2026let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.\u2026And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death\u201d\u2013(Lev. 24:11-16, 23).<\/span><\/p>\n

12. The adulteress is to be stoned\u2013(John 8:3-5).<\/span><\/p>\n

(The Christian\u2019s claim that Jesus forgave the adulteress is baseless\u2013(John 8:1-11). Strangely, there is no mention of the man with whom the woman is said to have committed adultery. Neither did the woman confess to nor deny the charge, nor was she asked if the charge against her was true. (Some justice!)\u00a0<\/span>
\nJesus not only says \u00a0 that he came to fulfill the law,3<\/span><\/sup> he explicitly instructed his followers to \u201cobserve and do\u201d whatever the \u201cscribes and Pharisees\u201d bid hem to do, because they sit in Moses\u2019 seat;4<\/span><\/sup> and two of the Mosaic teachings are to take an eye for an eye<\/i>, and to stone<\/i> the adulterer\/adulteress. Jesus could not be said to have abrogated these Mosaic laws and yet tell his followers to observe them.
\nIt would be a contradiction \u2013Jesus\u2019 turn the other cheek<\/i>5<\/span> <\/sup>and that the one who is without sin to cast a stone<\/i> at the adulteress do not abrogate the Mosaic teachings of an eye for an eye<\/i>6<\/span> <\/sup>and to stone <\/i>those guilty of adultery.7<\/span>
\n<\/sup>To give the \u201cother cheek\u201d is not applicable to infractions against cardinal laws. Jesus\u2019 give the \u201cother cheek\u201d and to forgive seventy-times seven <\/i>were meant to reform his people into being more tolerant of one another (and his mission was\u00a0<\/span>only for Jews<\/a><\/span>). However, if any aggrieved Jew would have demanded \u201can eye\u201d in turn from his transgressor Jesus would have had no choice but to apply the law which he came to, and vowed to, uphold.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

If the woman was guilty and Christ did not stone her then Christ had simply failed to enforce the law of God.
\nJesus telling the Scribes and Pharisees, \u201cHe that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her,\u201d<\/span> does not mean Jesus forgave her or that this statement abrogated the law of stoning.
\nTo say that the law of\u00a0 stoning was abrogated because no man is without sin and therefore no one would be able to \u201ccast a stone,\u201d it would have been pointless for God to have given such a law that man could not have carried out.
\nFurther, there was no case to begin with; the woman\u2019s accusers had all left without \u201ccondemning\u201d her. Jesus, rightly, as he had no evidence in the matter, could not condemn her either; him telling the woman to \u201cgo, and sin no more,\u201d is not a reflection that a sin (adultery) was committed.\u00a0 While this may be the best advice that Jesus could have given, it certainly wasn\u2019t \u201cforgiveness.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

Aside from that, not only did the Jews not accept Jesus, Jesus was in no official capacity to execute judgment in the matter, and, therefore the case should have been decided by the very scribes and Pharisees that brought the woman to Jesus. Jesus must have known that they were \u201ctempting him that they might have to accuse him,\u201d<\/span> as John 8:6 says, and was only being clever with them in saying \u201cHe that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.\u201d
\n\u00a0 \u00a0 It would have been interesting to note Jesus\u2019 response if the scribes and Pharisees had said to him that, since he, Jesus, was without sin, for him to first cast a stone at her.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Another observation. Jesus conversing with the Samaritan woman is not a sign of liberation of women. God decreed that woman be dominated by her husband; and this is what Paul taught.
\n<\/span>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0All Jesus wanted from the woman was a drink of water: <\/span>\u201cThere cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water (from Jacob\u2019s well): Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink;\u201d <\/span>but she gave Jesus an argument as to why a Jew was seeking drink from a Samaritan seeing that \u201cJews have no dealings with the Samaritans\u201d\u2013(John 4:5-28).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

As prophet of God, Jesus could not turn anyone away; but he could avoid them, and which he did, as is evident from his admonition to his disciples to not preach to non-Jews (and even Samaritans who also were Jews) whom he regarded as \u201cdogs\u201d and \u201cswine\u201d and from his preaching in parables so they would not understand and be saved. Obviously, Jesus had no intention of indulging in argument with the Samaritan woman. But the woman was sharp. And Jesus was cornered into it. This is no<\/span>\u00a0<\/span>liberation<\/span>.<\/span> Jesus was on self-defense).<\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Qur\u2019an abrogates these laws of stoning and death in the Bible. All\u0101h speaking about abrogating and changing of mess-ages\u2013(Qur\u2019an 2:106; 16:101) does not mean that one verse of the Qur\u2019an abrogates another, as is believed by many. It refers to the replacing of laws\/messages of Scriptures previous to the Qur\u2019an. Muhammad Ali has dealt with this topic in his Qur\u2019anic commentary #152\u2013re: Qur\u2019an 2:106. His translation of the Qur\u2019an can be viewed online: www.muslim.org<\/a><\/span>.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\n3. Matt. 5:17-18<\/span>
\n4. Matt. 23:2-3<\/span>
\n5. Luke 6:29.<\/span>
\n6. Exodus 21:24.<\/span>
\n7. Lev. 20:10\/John 8:5.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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