{"id":384,"date":"2015-02-26T02:50:53","date_gmt":"2015-02-26T02:50:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/azmi.co\/cust\/ngba-wp\/?page_id=384"},"modified":"2015-02-26T02:50:53","modified_gmt":"2015-02-26T02:50:53","slug":"islam-dowry-payment-for-sex","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=384","title":{"rendered":"Islam-dowry payment for sex"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\" style=\"text-align: center;\">\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">In the name of All\u0101h,<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">the Beneficent, the Merciful.<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: red; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">DEDICATED TO<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">All\u0101h&ndash;the Glorious and the High,<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Lord of the worlds<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: red; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">AND TO<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Mohammad&ndash;who brought the world<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">to our feet and eternity to our arms<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">*<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;DOWRY\/MAHR <\/span><span style=\"color: purple; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 14pt;\">PAYMENT FOR SEX<\/span><br \/>\n\t<span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,serif;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/answering-nonie-darwish\/\"><span style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 205);\">Nonie Darwish<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: rgb(0, 0, 205);\"><span style=\"font-size: 16px;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,serif;\">, <\/span><\/span><\/span>an Egyptian &ndash;and an apostate from Islam to Christianity&ndash; who has written two books,&nbsp;<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/3-nonie-darwish-now-they-call-me-infidel\/\"><span style=\"color: blue; font-family: &quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; text-decoration: none; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; text-underline: none;\"><font size=\"3\">Now They Call Me Infidel<\/font><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;and&nbsp;<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/4-nonie-darwish-cruel-and-usual-punishment\/\"><span style=\"color: blue; font-family: &quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; text-decoration: none; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; text-underline: none;\"><font size=\"3\">Cruel And Usual Punishment<\/font><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\"><i>: The terrifying global implications of Islamic Law<\/i>, states in her book <i>Cruel And Usual Punishment<\/i>: <span style=\"color: purple;\">&ldquo;In the Qur&rsquo;an, the dowry is often called <i>ujur<\/i> &ndash;the word <i>ujur <\/i>in Arabic literally means &ldquo;wage.&rdquo; So to make the meaning less repulsive, <i>dowry<\/i> was given a different word from that of the Qur&rsquo;an. It is now called <i>mahr<\/i> in Egypt. <i>Mahr<\/i> (dowry) is a technical term denoting the money that must be given to the woman in the marriage contract in exchange for enjoying her &ndash;it is simply payment for sex.&rdquo; (pp. 38-39).<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; <i><span style=\"background: yellow; color: red;\">Response:<\/span><\/i> When the man enjoys the woman doesn&rsquo;t the woman enjoy the man? how is it she does not have to give him anything?<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; Significantly, whereas the word <i>ujur <\/i>is used for dowry in Qur&rsquo;an 4:25, the word <i>saduqat <\/i>is used for dowry in Qur&rsquo;an 4:4. (Using Ms. Darwish&rsquo;s &ldquo;wages&rdquo; instead of dowry), Qur&rsquo;an 4:4 states: <span style=\"color: purple;\">&ldquo;And give women their <i>wages<\/i> as a free gift.&rdquo;<\/span> The words <i>as a FREE gift<\/i> obliterates Nonie Darwish&rsquo;s charge that the &ldquo;wage&rdquo;\/dowry is a payment to the woman in exchange for sex. The &ldquo;wage&rdquo;\/dowry could not be &ldquo;free&rdquo; and yet be payment for sex or for anything else. <\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; Regarding the word <i>saduqah <\/i>in Qur&rsquo;an 4:4 Muhammad Ali explains:<span style=\"color: purple;\"> &ldquo;The word used here is <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">saduqat<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">, pl. of <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">saduqah <\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">(from <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">sidq<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">, meaning <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">truth<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">), which means <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">dowry <\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">or <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">a nuptial gift<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">. <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">Sadaqah <\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">meaning <\/span><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">charity <\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">is a different word from the same root. <span style=\"background: yellow;\">Other words used for dowry are <\/span><\/span><i><span style=\"background: yellow; color: purple;\">mahr <\/span><\/i><span style=\"background: yellow; color: purple;\">and <\/span><i><span style=\"background: yellow; color: purple;\">sudaq<\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"color: purple;\">.<\/span><\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">&rdquo; <\/span>Thus, the word <i>mahr <\/i>is used instead of &ldquo;wage&rdquo; to denote that, <span style=\"background: yellow;\">unlike a payment which is given in return for service rendered, it is given without the recipient having given anything in return for it).<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>Thus, the word mahr is used, not &ldquo;to make the meaning less repulsive,&rdquo; but only to show the difference between something earned and something received without having done or given anything for it. Nonie Darwish may be Egyptian but she clearly needs to learn\/understand the Arabic language. <\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; Even if the marriage is not consummated the woman gets the mahr\/dowry as All\u0101h says in Qur&rsquo;an 2:237: <span style=\"color: purple;\">&ldquo;<\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">And if you divorce them <\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">BEFORE<\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\"> you have touched them and you have appointed for them a portion, (pay) half of what you have appointed unless they forgo or he forgoes in<\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">whose hand is the marriage tie.<\/span><i>&nbsp;<\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">And it is nearer to dutifulness that you forgo. Nor neglect the giving of free gifts between you.<\/span><i>&nbsp;<\/i><span style=\"color: purple;\">Surely All\u0101h is Seer of what you do.&rdquo;<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; If &ldquo;wage&rdquo;\/dowry is payment in exchange for sex how is it that the man is yet to give her half of the &ldquo;wage&rdquo;\/dowry, and even to give her all, when he has not had sex with her? <span style=\"color: purple;\">(Such is Islam&rsquo;s generosity to women). <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; Islam not only requires the man to give the woman mahr\/ dowry even though the marriage has not been consummated, Islam requires the man to give the woman a settlement even when the marriage has not been consummated: <span style=\"color: purple;\">&ldquo;<\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">There is no blame on you if you divorce women while yet you have not touched them, nor appointed for them a portion. And <strong>provide for them<\/strong>, the wealthy according to his means and the straitened according to his means, a provision according to usage. (This is) a duty on the doers of good&rdquo;&ndash;(Qur&rsquo;an 2:236). <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">Muhammad Ali notes: &ldquo;The <i>faridah <\/i>or <i>the portion <\/i>is the dowry, so that even when no dowry has been agreed upon, and marriage has not been consummated, liberality must be shown to the divorced wife, and some provision should be made for her, even though the husband may be in straitened circumstances.&rdquo; (This is another instance that shows the husband is to give alimony).<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style=\"color: purple;\">And the Prophet Mohammad married a man and woman based on the amount of the Qur&rsquo;an he (the man) had memorized&ndash;(Bokhari Vol. 3, 505; Vol. 6, 547, 548. Whether the hadith means that the man was to teach the woman what he knew of the Qur&rsquo;an as dowry or not is irrelevant); <\/span>the point is it would be preposterous to say that the man used the Qur&rsquo;an as payment for sex from the woman. <\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; Contrastingly. Whereas the Muslim woman gets &ldquo;wages&rdquo; (dowry\/mahr) as a &ldquo;free gift&rdquo; what does the Christian woman gets? The Christian woman gets nothing. This is not surprising, considering that (as shown in item #99) the Christian woman is regarded as only an object of sexual release for the man, to be ruled over by her husband and in all subjection. <span style=\"color: black;\">Thus, the Christian woman is like a horse &ndash;to be ridden; given some oats, and locked in the stable till the next riding. Christianity may not practice it and Secularism may not tolerate but it is their Scripture&rsquo;s decree. And passage into heaven lies in following the Scripture; so much so that heaven and earth shall pass away but not one dot of the law shall be omitted from being observed. Let the Christians&rsquo; son of God and &ldquo;God,&rdquo; Jesus, rehearse it: <\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">&ldquo;Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am <\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">NOT <\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot (dot) or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till <\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\">ALL<\/span><span style=\"color: purple;\"> be fulfilled&rdquo;<\/span>(Amen!)&ndash;(Matt. 5:17-18).<\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\n\t<span style=\"color: black; font-family: georgia,palatino; font-size: 12pt;\">&nbsp;&nbsp; Even after the Christian man has full usage of the Christian woman&rsquo;s &ldquo;sexual organs&rdquo; yet (as shown in item #99) she is cursed all the way into the next world as being a &lsquo;defiler&rsquo; and betrayer of her man. Clearly, the Christian woman was created only &ldquo;for the sake of meeting the sexual pleasure of men.&rdquo; &ldquo;Nothing more and nothing less.&rdquo; Nonie Darwish needs to lament over the grotesque misogyny in her religion.&nbsp;&nbsp; <\/span>\n<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify; margin-left: 36pt;\">\n\t<span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">Perhaps Nonie Darwish is subconsciously jealous\/envious of the Muslim bride getting a &ldquo;free&rdquo; gift whereas the Christian bride gets nothing; jealous\/envious that the Muslim bride and groom are Divinely instilled with love and compassion and the bride is a source of peace and comfort whereas the Christian bride is wife only to avoid fornication; jealous\/envious that the Muslim bride is friend and protector and garment to her husband as he is to her whereas the Christian bride is a &ldquo;transgressor&rdquo; and &ldquo;defiler&rdquo; and betrayer of man; jealous\/envious that the Muslim bride is honored as the symbol of purity and gateway to Paradise whereas the Christian bride is cursed as &ldquo;defiler&rdquo; etc; jealous\/envious that whereas the Muslim bride is only to be divorced after all avenues of conciliation are exhausted the Christian bride can be cast aside even for a trivial case of &ldquo;uncleanness;&rdquo; jealous\/envious that whereas the Muslim bride is Divinely entitled to alimony the Christian bride gets nothing &ndash;she has to slug it out with her &ldquo;ex&rdquo; in the secular court for him to give her &ldquo;wages;&rdquo; jealous\/ envious that the Muslim bride will be with her husband and children in Paradise whereas the Christian bride is unlikely to be with her husband and children in Paradise <\/span>(Jesus may have said that in&nbsp;<\/span><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/heaven-or-paradise\/\"><span style=\"color: blue; font-family: &quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; text-decoration: none; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; text-underline: none;\"><font size=\"3\">Heaven<\/font><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><span style=\"color: blue;\"> <\/span>there is no marriage&ndash;Matt. 22:30; but this does not mean that &ldquo;sex&rdquo; is taboo; for we have the sons of God coming all the way down to bed the daughters of men: <span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">&ldquo;And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the <\/span><\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">SONS OF GOD<\/span><\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"><span style=\"color: purple;\"> saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them <\/span><\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">WIVES<\/span><\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\">&nbsp;<\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">ALL OF WHICH THEY CHOSE<\/span><\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"><span style=\"color: purple;\">&rdquo;&ndash;Gen. 6:1-2; here we have spirits mating with humans; and God did not object;<\/span><\/span><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\"> perhaps the earthly daughters were &ldquo;fairer&rdquo; than the heavenly ones or the &ldquo;sons of God&rdquo; must have gotten tired of the heavenly ones; or in all likelihood there were no women in heaven which would be in accordance with Christian teaching that woman is &ldquo;defiler&rdquo; of man in which event <span style=\"background: yellow;\">there is no place for women in the Christian heaven &ndash;heaven is only for the pure; one that &ldquo;defiles&rdquo; is not pure&ndash;;<\/span> thus the Christian men in heaven would have to spend their time lonely and alone in the &ldquo;mansions&rdquo; that Jesus said he was going to prepare for them before his uncertain going and <\/span><\/span><\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/jesus-second-coming\/\"><span style=\"color: blue; font-family: &quot;Georgia&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;; text-decoration: none; mso-fareast-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; text-underline: none;\"><font size=\"3\">second coming<\/font><\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\"><span class=\"plaintextcharchar\">; all the Christian men would be able to do in Christian heaven is read past-time Bible stories and watch the <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: georgia,palatino;\">&ldquo;the wolf&rdquo; dwelling &ldquo;with the lamb&rdquo; and &ldquo;the lion&rdquo; eating &ldquo;straw like the ox&rdquo; as Isaiah 11:6-7 has it; or these bored Christian men in their boring Christian heaven will hang out together talking about and wishing they were in the Muslim Paradise, and praying, not for their daily bread as Christ exhorts them, but praying for another creation when the earth will again be filled with the &ldquo;fair&rdquo; &ldquo;daughters of men&rdquo; so they can fly down and take them as wives and, happily, be &ldquo;defiled&rdquo;).<\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the name of All\u0101h, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad. DEDICATED TO All\u0101h&ndash;the Glorious and the High, Lord of the worlds AND TO Mohammad&ndash;who brought the world to our feet and eternity to our arms * &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;DOWRY\/MAHR PAYMENT FOR SEX Nonie Darwish, an Egyptian &ndash;and an apostate from Islam [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","template":"","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-384","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/384","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=384"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/384\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=384"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}