{"id":286,"date":"2015-02-26T00:06:31","date_gmt":"2015-02-26T00:06:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/azmi.co\/cust\/ngba-wp\/?page_id=286"},"modified":"2023-03-14T02:02:59","modified_gmt":"2023-03-14T02:02:59","slug":"jesus-as-god","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=286","title":{"rendered":"Jesus-as God"},"content":{"rendered":"

In the name of All\u0101h,<\/span>
\nthe Beneficent, the Merciful.<\/span>
\nPeace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.<\/span>
\nDEDICATED TO<\/span>
\nAll\u0101h\u2013the Glorious and the High,<\/span>
\nLord of the worlds<\/span>
\nAND TO<\/span>
\nMohammad\u2013who brought the world<\/span>
\nto our feet and eternity to our arms<\/span>.
\n*<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Christians claim Jesus is God -that God incarnated Himself as Jesus (much like Hindus believe that God incarnated Himself as Vishnu, Rama and sub-humans; see<\/span> Hinduism-Karma and Reincarnation & Women<\/span>).<\/span><\/a>
\nThe question for Christians is: How did God enter into Mary’s womb for Him to be “conceived” as Jesus Christ<\/span> -did God enter Mary the way the soul enters a woman body through one of her openings and sits in the womb waiting to be fertilized as Hinduism teaches; or did the Christian God enter Mary’s body through her vagina as wind\/spirit or as a sperm; and whose sperm?\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Jesus says in John 14:12-14: \u201cVerily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater\u00a0works<\/em>\u00a0than these shall he do; (man can do greater works than God\/Son of God?)<\/span> because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, <\/strong>that the\u00a0Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do\u00a0it.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/span>
\nInstead of trying to convince the more-than-one-billion Muslims that Jesus is God,<\/span> that he died on the cross (for inherited<\/span> sin<\/span><\/a>) and that Muslims are to follow the \u00a0Gospels<\/span><\/a> \u2013and only the uneducated, the gullible, and the unthinking would believe these and kiss the useless and unGodly crucifix\u2013<\/span> Christians would be better served by asking Jesus to grant abundance to the world\u2019s starving and destitute; and for Jesus to heal\/cure all those, especially children, afflicted with cancer and suffering other chronic ailments\/diseases.<\/span>
\nAre you Christians loathe to ask Jesus on behalf of these unfortunate \u201cchildren of God\u201d? Or do \u00a0you Christians not believe\/trust the word of your God\/Son of God that he will do \u201cwhatsoever\u201d you \u00a0\u201cshall ask in\u201d his \u201cname\u201d and alleviate the maladies of man?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 JESUS\u2013AS GOD<\/span>
\n<\/span><\/span>Christians say that Jesus is God; and that Father (God) Son (Jesus) and Holy Ghost\/Spirit are one and the same entity. And (noting\u00a0the applicable portions)\u00a0the Gospels state:\u00a0\u201cThe Holy Ghost shall come upon thee (Mary)\u2026and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee\u201d\u00a0and\u00a0\u201cthat which is CONCEIVED in her (Mary) is of the Holy Ghost\u201d\u2013(Luke 1:35; Matt. 1:20).<\/span><\/span>
\nIf Jesus is God then Jesus (as the Holy Ghost and as the Highest) came upon his OWN mother and effected his OWN conception with HIS MOTHER.\u00a0This is incest. God, Holy Ghost and Jesus committed incest??? <\/span>(See Jesus-had s-x with his mother<\/a><\/span>).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cI proceeded forth and came from God;<\/span><\/span>
\nneither came I of myself, but He sent me\u201d<\/span><\/span>
\n(Jesus \u2013John 8:42)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Christians are noted for taking statements out of context to support their false beliefs that Jesus is God<\/span>;\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>son of God.<\/span><\/a><\/span>
\n\u00a0 Though Jesus clearly declared he was <\/span>a Muslim and taught Islam<\/span><\/a>;\u00a0that God sent him\u00a0<\/span>only for Jews<\/span><\/a> and\u00a0he foretold the coming of another\u00a0 <\/span>Comforter<\/span><\/a>\u00a0who will guide into “all truth” and will “abide for ever.”<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew 1:23 state that Jesus\u2019 NAME shall be \u201cImmanuel\u201d\/\u201dEmmanuel,\u201d which is \u201cinterpreted\u201d to mean \u201cGod with us\u201d \u2013whereas Christians interpret this \u201cImmanuel\u201d as referring to Jesus there is no place in the Gospels where Jesus is addressed as Immanuel.<\/span>\u00a0<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Notably, only the NAME \u201cImmanuel\u201d is \u201cinterpreted\u201d to mean \u201cGod with us,\u201d NOT that Immanuel\/Jesus is \u201cGod with us.\u201d<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Significantly; whereas Luke 1:35 states that Jesus shall be \u201ccalled\u201d \u201cSON\u201d <\/i>of God, Isaiah and Matthew state that Jesus is named \u201cGOD\u201d<\/i> with us.\u201d Clearly, if these names are taken literally, Jesus could not be \u201cSON\u201d of God and yet be GOD and yet \u201cproceeded forth and CAME FROM GOD\u201d and be \u201cSENT\u201d by God, as noted above in the verse of John 8:42.<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 As only Jesus\u2019 NAME means \u201cGod with us\u201d Jesus is NOT God and he could NOT be God! <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Unlike All\u0101h, God, Who is All-knowing and wise\u2013(Qur\u2019an 4:92; 8:71; 35:2),the Christians\u2019 God\/son of God, Jesus, needed to eat butter and honey in order to differentiate between evil and good; speaking about Jesus\/Immanuel the Bible says: \u201cButter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good\u201d\u2013 (Isaiah 7:14-15).<\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Isaiah 7:14-15 speaking about Immanuel says: \u201cButter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.\u201d<\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span>It would be ludicrous to the extreme to cerebrate that God or Son of God needs to eat \u201cButter and honey\u201d in order to refuse evil and choose good. (All\u0101h God is All-knowing and Wise\u2013Qur\u2019an 4:92; 8:71; 35:2),<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Luke 2:52 states: \u201cAnd Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with <\/span><\/span>GOD <\/span><\/span>and <\/span><\/span>MAN<\/span><\/span>.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span>It is gross absurdity to entertain that God needs to increase in wisdom and stature and to find favour with man. And if Jesus was God, God would be finding favor with himself. Since more than half the world \u2013atheists and non-Christians\u2013<\/span> does not accept Jesus as vicarious atoner (at least) it is doubtful the Christian\u2019s God, Jesus, would ever find \u201cfavour\u201d with (all) man. (All\u0101h God is the All-knowing and the Creator and Benefactor to all).
\n<\/span>If Jesus is God God would be finding favour with himself. (Sheer inanity!).\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span>Unlike All\u0101h God Who is All-powerful\u2013(Qur\u2019an 4:85; 12:21; 35:1),the Christians\u2019 God\/son of God, Jesus, needed to pray for power to be given to him: \u201cBut if I with the finger of God<\/i> cast out devils;\u201d \u201cI can of mine own self do nothing;\u201d \u201cFather, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always\u201d and with the power of God he resurrected Lazarus\u2013(Luke 11:20; John 5:30; 11:41-43.<\/span><\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 If Jesus was God and if he and the Father \u201care one\u201d and if the Father, son, and Holy Ghost are one, to whom then was Jesus praying? Jesus was praying to All\u0101h! <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Jesus said: <\/span>\u201cBut from the beginning of the creation <\/span>GOD <\/span>made them males and females, <\/span>for this cause shall a man leave his father <\/span>and mother, and cleave to his wife, <\/span>and the twain shall be one flesh. <\/span>So then they are no more twain, <\/span>but one flesh\u201d-<\/span>(Mark 10:6-8; cf.<\/i> Genesis 1:27; 2:24; 5:2; <\/span>1 Corinthians 6:16; Ephesians 5:31).
\n<\/span>Jesus says \u201cGOD\u201d made them males and females; he did not say \u201cI\u201d made them males and females. How then it is claimed that Jesus is God?<\/span><\/p>\n

Christians say Jesus is God, but God says: \u201chow can he be clean that is born of a woman?\u2013(Job 25:4).<\/span>\u00a0 <\/span>If God came from a woman, He must be not \u201cclean.\u201d And as Adam, Eve, and Melchisedec \u2013who had no parents, or beginning or end\u2013<\/span> were not born, then according to Christians Adam, Eve, and Melchisedec are cleaner than God.\u00a0<\/span><\/span>
\n
\n<\/span>As noted, Jesus said \u201c\u2026I proceeded forth and came from God;<\/span> neither came I of myself, but He sent me<\/span>\u201d\u2013(John 8:42).<\/span><\/span>\u00a0 This statement by Jesus clearly and conclusively shows that Jesus is <\/span>NOT<\/span> God and could <\/span>NOT<\/span> be God!).\u00a0<\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 That Jesus \u201cproceeded forth and came from God\u201d is not restricted to Jesus. Everything in creation \u201cproceeded forth and came from God,\u201d from light to the heavens and earth and all vegetation and creatures\u2013(Genesis 1:1-31; 2:1-25); and God said to the prophet Jeremiah: \u201c<\/span><\/span>BEFORE<\/span><\/span>\u00a0<\/span>I formed thee in the belly I knew thee\u2026\u201d\u2013(Jer. 1:5).<\/span><\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 That every person had a pre-existence. We took an oath with All\u0101h before we were sent into the world. All\u0101h reminds us of this in His Qur\u2019an: <\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAnd when thy Lord brought forth from the children of Adam, from their loins, their descendants, and made them bear witness about themselves: Am I not your Lord? They said: Yes; we bear witness.<\/strong> Lest you should say on the day of Resurrection: We were unaware of this, Or (lest) you should say: Only our fathers ascribed partners (to Allah) before (us), and we were (their) descendants after them. Wilt Thou destroy us for what liars did?\u201d\u2013(Qur\u2019an 7:172-173). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>Thus, not only Jesus, but all of us \u201cproceedeth forth and come from God.\u201d Everyone of us \u201cproceeded forth and came from God.\u201d Everything \u2013past, present, and future\u2013<\/span> exists in the know-ledge of God: this is what makes Him Omniscient. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, he could not be \u201cson\u201d of God\u2013one cannot be both God and \u201cson of God\u201d\u2013(Luke 1:35). <\/span>(Since God says that He will put His words into the mouth of this \u2018prophet like Moses,\u2019 and since Christians claim that Jesus is God and the \u2018prophet like Moses,\u2019 then God must have put His words in His own mouth\u2013Deut. 18:18-19).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God because he said \u201cI am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last\u201d (though he also said \u201cI am the root and the offspring of David\u201d\u2013(Rev. 22:13, 16); then Melchisedec also must be God \u2013and even greater then Jesus as Jesus had a mother at least\u2013 for Melchisedec was \u201cWithout father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually\u201d\u2013(Hebrews 7:1, 3).
\n<\/span>\u00a0 \u00a0This would give Christians four Gods: God the <\/span>Father<\/i>, God the <\/span>Son<\/i>, God the <\/span>Holy Ghost<\/i>, and God the <\/span>Melchisedec.<\/i> Even Moses was a god: <\/span>\u201cAnd the Lord said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh\u201d\u2013(Exodus 7:1).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God because he says: \u201cI and my Father are one\u201d<\/span> (and which statement when taken in its context means he and God are one in purpose<\/i>; as all prophets are \u201cone\u201d with God, as they do as they are commanded by God\u2013John 10:30; 12:49; 14:10); then the Jews that Jesus prayed for must also be Gods; as he said, \u201cI pray for them (Jews)\u2026That they may all be one; as Thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that <\/span><\/span>THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US<\/span><\/span>\u201d\u2013(John 17:9-21); <\/span><\/span>then the Jews he is praying for so that they also could be \u201cone\u201d \u201cin us\u201d<\/i> are also Gods.\u00a0<\/span><\/span>
\n
\n<\/span>(One Christian [taken from a \u201cforwarded\u201d e-mail] argues: \u201c<\/span><\/span>God put the seed that was necessary in the\u00a0womb of Mary so that a baby could develop. When the\u00a0Bible calls Jesus \u201cSon of God\u201d it means that He came to\u00a0do God\u2019s will perfectly as a son would obey his father. Jesus fulfilled the <\/span>ROLE<\/span> of a son. It also means that\u00a0Jesus had the nature of God. A horse produces a horse; a\u00a0camel produces a camel. A human produces a human,\u00a0and God produces God.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

If \u201cGod produces God\u201d as horses produce horses, and as horses etc; generally, had to engage in sex to do this, and as God did not have sex with Mary (Astaghferullah!) <\/i>how could Jesus be God? <\/span>Scientist who \u201cput the seed that was necessary in the womb of\u201d sheep is not the father of the offspring of the sheep, and the offspring is not the son [or daughter] of the scientist; nor is the newborn sheep human as the scientist.\u00a0<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span>And if horses and camels produce, respectively, horses and camels and \u201cGod produces God,\u201d then, according to this Christian, the first horses and camels and all other first<\/i> creatures, having been produced by God, must also all be Gods and \u201c<\/span>had the nature of God.\u201d\u00a0<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Again, if \u201cGod produces God\u201d then Jesus should not be flesh and blood, he should have been \u201cSpirit\u201d as God is\u2013John 4:24.\u00a0<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 And <\/span>If Jesus came to do “God’s will perfectly” why did he pray to great sweat to be spared death, and why did he blaspheme from the cross that God had “forsaken” him?
\n<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, then, as noted, God would need to eat \u201cButter and honey\u201d in order to<\/span>\u00a0\u201cknow to refuse the evil, and choose the good\u201d\u2013(Isaiah 7:14-15) <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one, Elisabeth could not be filled with the Holy Ghost as the Holy Ghost was in Mary\u2019s womb, and was also with Zaccharias\u2013(Luke 1:41-43, 67). <\/span><\/p>\n

-If Jesus was God \u201cAll power\u201d could not be \u201cgiven\u201d to him\u2013(Matt. 28:18. God gave Himself \u201call power\u201d?). As \u201call power\u201d was \u201cgiven\u201d to him, \u201call power\u201d can be taken from him. And no one can \u201cgive\u201d or \u201ctake\u201d power from God; be it some or \u201call.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus is God, man would do greater works than God\u2013(John 14:12).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have ascended to himself: <\/span>\u201cI ascend to\u2026my God, and your God\u201d\u2013(John 20:17). <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have led himself into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil\u2013(Matt. 4:1). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have sent himself to the Jews\u2013(John 6:38; 17:3).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have prayed to himself; \u201cforsaken\u201d himself on the cross; thanked himself; heard himself; and worshipped himself\u2013(Matt; 26:39; 27:46; Luke 10:21; John 11: 41; 4:22).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God he could <\/span>NOT <\/span>have heard the truth from God: \u201cBut now you seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, <\/span>WHICH I HAVE HEARD OF GOD<\/span>\u201d\u2013(John 8:40). <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have known that <\/span>fig was not in season\u2013(Mark 11:12-13). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have known <\/span>the day and hour of future events\u2013(Mark 13:32). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have known t<\/span>he identity of the woman \u201chaving an issue of blood\u201d who touched his garment\u2013(Luke 8:43-46).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have known t<\/span>hat Elijah and Enoch ascended to heaven\u2013(John 3:13; 2 Kings 2:1, 11; Hebrews 11:5). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God would have <\/span>been able to do things of himself\u2013(John 5:30).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, the pure (and impure) have already seen God\u2013(Matt. 5:8). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God, God was made into a \u201ccurse\u201d\u2013(Gal. 3:13; Deut. 21:23). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God he would have the attributes of God, such as \u201cOmniscience\u201d and \u201cOmnipotence\u201d and Omnipresence which he clearly had not.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God he would not have said it was GOD who made male and female; he would have said \u201cI\u201d made them: \u201cBut from the beginning of the creation GOD made them male and female\u201d\u2013(Mark 10:6).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -God said that Jesus is His son\u2013(Matt. 3:17; Heb. 5:5), Jesus could not be God; a person cannot be both himself and his son. <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one person, then Jesus cannot give the Holy Ghost to his disciples\u2013(John 20:22). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -Father, Son, and Holy Ghost could not be one when the son, Jesus, did only what God instructed him to do\u2013(John 5:30-31; 6:38; 17:4; Matt. 15:24). (The instructed is not synonymous with the instructor).<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -Jesus could not be God when he was subjected to God\u2013(1 Cor. 15: 27-28).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -Jesus was NOT Emmanuel, he was only NAMED Emmanuel\u2013(Matt. 1:23). <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -Jesus cannot be God, for Jesus was on LAND, and the Spirit DESCENDED on him, and (God\u2019s) voice came from HEAVEN\u2013(Matt. 3:16-17).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -John 1:1 says \u201cthe Word was with God, and the Word was God.\u201d<\/span> But the \u201cWord\u201d could not be WITH God and still be God. <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one<\/i>, when the Son was killed all three of them died; and as all three died, Jesus could not have been resurrected because the dead cannot resurrect itself. Since all three died the universe is without a God (?).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -Jesus made it clear that he is not God when he says (Matt. 19:17; Mark 10:18): \u201cWhy callest thou me good? there is <\/i><\/span>NONE <\/span>good but one<\/span><\/i>, that is <\/span>GOD<\/span>.<\/span><\/i><\/strong>\u201d<\/span> Jesus not only denies that he is God, he also denies that he is good.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -If Jesus was God because <\/span>\u201cAll power\u201d is given to him and he was \u201cworshipped\u201d by the two Mary\u2019s and by his eleven <\/i>disciples though \u201csome doubted\u201d him\u2013(Matt.28:18, 9, 17), then Pharaoh and the idols and items of nature worshipped in olden times by the tens of thousands of pagans \u2013if not millions through the ages, as compared to the few who worshipped Jesus\u2013 Pharaoh and these idols and items, according to Christian logic, must also be \u201cGods.\u201d And these idols and items were not given any \u201cpower\u201d yet they drew such lofty honor as to be worshipped. <\/span><\/p>\n

Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din exposes in his The Sources of Christianity:<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cThe idea of the man-God was not strange to the\u00a0Gentiles. Their mythologies were teeming with God\u00a0Incarnate, His sufferings for human salvation, his\u00a0resurrection, human sin and its expiation through God\u2019s\u00a0sacrifice, were things rampant in Greek and Roman\u00a0literature. The Gentiles of the days of St. Paul could\u00a0easily see in Jesus, as portrayed by the Apostle, a\u00a0reflection of their own God, and accept him as a\u00a0representative of the class that were that were believed to\u00a0have visited the earth in the olden days (as is for example, the opinion of Gibbon), and participated with\u00a0them in human affairs. The vigilant eye of St. Paul and\u00a0of the monks who were really builders of the Church,\u00a0could easily see that side of human psychology. They, therefore, clothed Jesus with Divinity, and saturated\u00a0their writings with the phraseology current in Pagan and other philosophic literature of the days.\u201d (p. 17).<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cAt the appearance of Jesus there were temples without end dedicated to gods like Apollo or Dionysius among the Greek, Hercules among the Romans, Mithra among the Persians, Adonis and Attis in Syria and Phrygia; Osiris, Isis and Horus in Egypt; Baal and Astarte among the Babylonians and Carthaginians, and so forth.
\nAll these Deities were sun-gods, and of all or nearly all of them, as Edward Carpenter says, it was believed that:\u2013<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0(1)<\/span> They were born on or very near Christmas Day.
\n(2)<\/span> They were born of a Virgin Mother.
\n(3)<\/span> And in a cave or underground chamber.
\n(4<\/span>) They led a life of toil for mankind.
\n\u00a0<\/span>(5)<\/span> They were called by the names of Light-Bringer, Healer, Mediator, Saviour and Deliverer.
\n(6)<\/span> They were, however, vanquished by the Powers of\u00a0Darkness.
\n(7)<\/span> They descended into Hell or the Underground.
\n(8<\/span>) They rose again from the dead, and became the\u00a0pioneers of mankind to the Heavenly World.
\n(9)<\/span> They founded Communions of Saints and Churches,\u00a0to which disciples were received by baptism.
\n(10)<\/span> They were commemorated by Eucharistic meals.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cMithraism came from Persia, where it seems to have\u00a0been flourishing for about six hundred years, the cult reaching Rome about 70 B.C. It spread through the\u00a0Empire, and extended to Great Britain. Remains of\u00a0Mithraic monuments have been discovered at York, Chester and other places. Mithra was believed to be a\u00a0great Mediator between God and man. His birth took\u00a0place in a cave on December 25th. He was born of a\u00a0virgin.<\/span><\/i> He traveled far and wide; he had twelve disciples;\u00a0he died in the service of humanity. He was buried, but\u00a0rose again from the tomb. His resurrection was\u00a0celebrated with great rejoicing<\/i>.a<\/span><\/sup><\/span> His great festivals were\u00a0the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox\u2013Christmas\u00a0and Easter. He was called Saviour,<\/span><\/i> and sometimes\u00a0figured as a Lamb<\/i>. People were initiated into his cult through baptism<\/span><\/i>. Sacramental feasts<\/i><\/span> were held in his\u00a0remembrance. These statements may excite surprise in\u00a0the mind of the reader of to-day; he may be disposed to\u00a0doubt their genuineness, as while on one side he reads\u00a0the story of the Jesus of the Church, in the legend of\u00a0Mithra on the other Mithraism has left no traces in the\u00a0world, although it was so powerful in the third century\u00a0A.D. that, had it not been suppressed in Rome and\u00a0Alexandria by the Christians with physical force, as has \u00a0 been admitted by St. Jerome, it would have left no\u00a0chance for the flourishing of Christianity; and that it died\u00a0only when most of its legends became incorporated in\u00a0the simple faith of Jesus,b<\/span> <\/sup>and the Church lore fully\u00a0saturated with Mithraic colours,<\/span> so much so that\u00a0Tertullian had to admit the fact, though in a way\u00a0befitting his position. He says that the learned in his days\u00a0considered Mithraism and Christianity identical in all\u00a0but name.<\/span><\/i> St. Jerome and other Early Fathers became\u00a0puzzled at the similarity existing between the two faiths, but their ingenuity ascribed it to the machinations of the\u00a0Devil to mock their faith.\u201d 1 (a-b)<\/span><\/sup> <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 K.K notes, Justin Martyr, writing to the Emperor Adrian,(Hadrian?)<\/span><\/i>,<\/span> to strengthen his beliefs that Jesus is Son of God, blames the Devil for the Pagan Sons of Jove; he says:\u00a0<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cIt having reached the Devil\u2019s ears that the prophets had\u00a0foretold the coming of Christ (the Son of God) <\/span>he set the heathen poets to bring forward a great many who should\u00a0be called the sons of Jove. The Devil laying his scheme in this, to get man to imagine hat the true history of\u00a0Christ was of the same character as the prodigious fables\u00a0related of the sons of Jove\u2026.By declaring the Logos, the\u00a0first begotten of God, Our Master Jesus, to be born of a\u00a0virgin, without any human mixture, we (Christians) say\u00a0no more in this than what you (Pagans) say of those\u00a0whom you style the sons of Jove. For you need not be\u00a0told what a parcel of sons the writers most in vogue\u00a0among you assign to Jove. (Just as the Bible assigns a\u00a0legion of sons to God)<\/span><\/i>\u2026.As to the Son of God, called\u00a0Jesus, should we allow him to be no more than man\u00a0(note well, it is Christians who \u201callow\u201d Jesus to be\u00a0\u201cmore than man\u201d)<\/span><\/i>,<\/span> yet the title of the son of God is very\u00a0justifiable upon account of his wisdom (then this\u00a0\u201cwisdom\u201c should make Einstein at least super son of God)<\/span><\/i>,<\/span> considering that you (Pagans) have your Mercury\u00a0in worship under the title of the Word, a messenger of\u00a0God\u2026.As to his (Jesus) being born of a virgin, you have\u00a0your Perseus to balance that\u2026.if Jupiter could send a\u00a0parcel of sons out of virgin mothers; the Father in\u00a0heaven assuredly could do the same at least in our\u00a0case.\u201d\u201d 2<\/span><\/sup><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 If this is how easy it is for the Devil to \u201cshanghai\u201d the Christian\u2019s God\u2019s purpose, the Devil must be doing the \u201ctango,\u201d throwing \u201ca\u201d voice around, giving visions of the non-existent \u201cVirgin,\u201d and having Christians speak in yet to be identified \u201ctongues.\u201d
\nIf the Devil \u201c<\/span>set the heathen poets to bring forward a great many who should be called the sons of Jove\u201d to pre-empt the birth of Jesus, the Devil must have also \u201cset the heathen poets\u201d to copy the Passion Play of Jesus so that the Passion Play of Baal would be exactly as Jesus\u2019 centuries before Jesus. (See Jesus-pagan passion play<\/span><\/a>. For Christians\u2019 pagan heritage see The Sources of Christianity<\/em>, obtainable from www.muslim.org<\/span><\/a>). <\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Jesus, as all other prophets, is one with God in purpose<\/i>. Jesus is not one with God in substance.
\nSee also:<\/span>
\n-Bible corrupt & obsolete<\/span><\/a>.
\n-Jesus-only for Jews<\/span><\/a>
\n–Jesus-Son of G<\/a>od
\n-Jesus-Trinity, word of God<\/a><\/span><\/span>
\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

*<\/span><\/p>\n

On the alleged Divinity of Jesus. In the tenth year of the Hijrah, the Prophet Mohammad had a discussion with the Christians of Najran. This dialogue is noted by Khwaja Nazir Ahmad in his book Jesus in Heaven on Earth, (pp. 174-176)\u2013 (footnotes to this narrative are omitted):-<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cThe last objection of the Christians is that the Holy Qur’an cites the case of Adam as a parallel to that of Jesus; therefore Jesus, like Adam, was without a father. They urge that Jesus was created, like Adam, by a Divine Command: kun fa yakoon. <\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 In this connection Christian critics of Islam refer to the follow-ing Qur\u2019anic verse: <\/span><\/p>\n

Surely the likeness of Jesus is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was. (This is) the truth from your Lord, so be not of the disputers-(Qur’an 3:58-59).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 All commentators of the Holy Qur’an, ancient and modern, agree that these verses, along with some others, were revealed when the Holy Prophet was having a discussion with the Christians of Najran in the tenth year of the Hijra. This deputa-tion consisted of sixty men and was headed by Abdul Masih, the chief of the Christians of Najran.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The discussion took place in the Mosque of the Holy Prophet where the visitors had been lodged and permitted to hold their own prayers. In Sirat-ul-Halabi the visit of this deputation is described in full detail. The point at issue was the divinity of Jesus. (The plural pronoun \u201cThey\u201d was used throughout to indicate that Abdul Masih was speaking on behalf of himself and his companions). (Emphasis added).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cAbdul Masih, the leader of the Christians, opened the dis-cussion and enquired from the Holy Prophet: <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They said: What do you think of our Lord (Sahib)?\u00a0\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God enquired: “Who is your Lord?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They replied: Isa. Do you take him to be a servant of God?<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God said:\u00a0\u00a0 “Yes.”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They then asked: “Have you seen anyone like him, or have you been informed of a man like him? He is God because he had no father, he raised the dead, he gave information of the un-seen, he cured lepers and made birds from clay. Consider this superiority. Do you still call him a servant of God?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Holy Prophet did not answer at once for at that very moment came the Divine revelation and one of the verses revealed was:<\/span><\/p>\n

Surely the likeness of Jesus is with All\u0101h as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said, Be, and he was. (Qur\u2019an 3:59)<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 It may be noticed that the verse does not say that the creation of Jesus was like that of Adam. I now quote the discussion from Tafsir Ibn Jarir at-Tabari where it is recorded in full detail under this very verse:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They questioned:\u00a0\u00a0 “Who was his father?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God replied: “Don’t you know that no child is born but has a likeness to its father in form and appearance?” <\/span><\/i><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They said:\u00a0\u00a0 “Yes, we know.” <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God said: “Don’t you know that our God is alive and will never die and Jesus had to die?”<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They said:\u00a0\u00a0 “Yes, we know.”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God said: “Don’t you know that our God is One to Whom everything submits. He is the Custodian and Guardian of all and He gives sustenance to everyone?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They replied:\u00a0\u00a0 “Yes, we know.”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God questioned: “Was Jesus possessed of any of these powers?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They replied:\u00a0\u00a0 “No.”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God then asked: “Did Jesus know of any of these things except those of which God gave him knowledge?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They answered:\u00a0\u00a0 “No.”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God said: “Don’t you know that our God neither eats, nor drinks, nor does He answer the calls of nature?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They said:\u00a0\u00a0 “Yes, we know.” <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Then said the Messenger of God: “Don’t you know that Jesus was conceived by a woman\u00a0\u00a0 just as any other woman conceives a child<\/span><\/strong>, then she gave birth to him like every other woman gives birth to a child<\/i>, he was then reared up like other children, then he used to eat and drink and answer the calls of nature like other human beings?”<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 They said:\u00a0\u00a0 “Yes, we know.” <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Messenger of God then enquired: “How can Messiah be the One you take him to be (i.e. God)?<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Rabi narrates that the Christians could not reply to this question, but would not agree either and insisted on their false belief. As a last resort the Holy Prophet invited them in the terms of the revelation: <\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cBut whoever disputes with you in this matter after what has come to you of knowledge, then say: Come! let us call our sons and your sons and our women and your women, and our people and your people, then let us be earnest in prayer and pray for the curse of Allah on the liars\u201d\u2013(Qur\u2019an 3:61).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Christians wanted time to consider the challenge and on the next day Abdul Masih and two of his companions informed the Holy Prophet that they had decided not to accept it, and that they would not pray against him nor invite him to pray against them. Thereupon an agreement was entered into whereby they were made free to practise their religion.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Jesus having performed miracles through the POWER OF GOD\u2013(Luke 11:20; John 8:28, 11:42; Acts 2:22; Qur\u2019an 3:48), Jesus could not be God.
\n\u00a0\u00a0 There were others that performed miracles: <\/strong><\/span>
\n-Moses\u2013(Exodus 7:10; 14:21)<\/span>
\n-Elijah\u2013(1 Kings 17:17-23; 2 Kings 2:7-8)<\/span>
\n-Elisha\u2013(2 Kings 2:12-14; 2 Kings 4:32-36)<\/span>
\n-Joshua\u2013(Josh. 10:12-13)<\/span>
\n-False Christs and false prophets can perform miracles\u2013(Matt. 24:24).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Even things performed miracles:<\/strong><\/span>
\n-the pool at Bethesda\u2013(John 5:2-4);<\/span>
\n-the river Jordan\u2013(2 Kings 5:9-14);<\/span>
\n-Elisha’s dead bones\u2013(2 Kings 13:20-21).<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Thus if Jesus performing miracles make him God; all these others must also be Gods.<\/span><\/p>\n

The Gospels state: \u201cThe Holy Ghost shall come upon thee (Mary)\u2026<\/span>and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee\u201d<\/span><\/span> and \u201cthat which is conceived in her (Mary) is of the Holy Ghost\u201d\u2013(Luke 1:35; Matt. 1:20).<\/span><\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 If Jesus is God and one in a Trinity with God, and as the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are said to be one, then Jesus, as the Holy Ghost and as the Highest, came upon his own mother and effected his own conception (with his mother). (?) <\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Gospels state that at the baptism of Jesus \u201cthe Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a <\/span>DOVE<\/span> upon him, and a <\/span>VOICE<\/span>came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased\u201d\u2013(Luke 3:21-22.<\/span> Though the \u201cbeloved\u201d son blasphemed from the cross that the Father had \u201cforsaken\u201d him).\u00a0<\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Bear in mind Jesus was on land, the \u201cdove\u201d in the air, and \u201ca\u201d voice from heaven \u2013all are in separate forms and existences\u2013 thus Father, Son and Holy Ghost cannot be \u201cone.\u201d (That 1+1+1=1, and 1 divided by 3=1 is mathematicide).<\/span><\/span><\/span>
\n\u00a0\u00a0 Significantly, the verse says \u201cA\u201d voice came from heaven. But Jesus said about God: \u201cYe have <\/span>NEITHER<\/span> heard his voice at <\/span>ANY TIME<\/span>, nor seen his shape\u201d\u2013(John 5:37).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Whereas Jesus was only a messenger of God sent to the Israelites to call them to \u201crepentance\u201d and \u201cforgiveness\u201d, Christians consigned Jesus to the bed of celibacy, crowned him with Divinity and made him scapegoat for non-existent inherited sin; and whereas David was material king Christians make Jesus spiritual king of future-world. (See Jesus-like David<\/span><\/a>; Jesus-foretold;<\/span><\/a> Jesus-1000-year rule<\/span><\/a>).
\nJesus says you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free (from lies, falsehood, and blasphemy). And the Divine truth is, Jesus was a prophet of God\u00a0and \u201cTHERE IS NO GOD BUT ALL\u0100H; <\/span>MOHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALL\u0100H!\u201d<\/span>
\n<\/span> <\/span><\/p>\n

*<\/span><\/p>\n

NOTES<\/span><\/p>\n

1.<\/span> Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din, The Sources of Christianity<\/i>, pp. 29, 30-31. a<\/span><\/sup> Robertson, Pagan Christs<\/i>, p. 338. b<\/span><\/sup> Ibid.<\/i> p. 350. Italics\/emphasis added.<\/span><\/p>\n

2.<\/span> Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din, The Sources of Christianity, <\/i>p. 37. K.K. cites Adol, I. Ch. xxii. Italics\/emphasis\/color added.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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