{"id":2583,"date":"2017-02-11T18:55:37","date_gmt":"2017-02-11T18:55:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=2583"},"modified":"2017-03-12T17:58:29","modified_gmt":"2017-03-12T17:58:29","slug":"jesus-allows-lyingdeception","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=2583","title":{"rendered":"Jesus-allows lying\/deception"},"content":{"rendered":"

In the name of All\u0101h,
\n<\/span>the Beneficent, the Merciful.
\n<\/span>Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.
\n<\/span>DEDICATED TO<\/span>
\n<\/span>All\u0101h\u2013the Glorious and the High,
\n<\/span>Lord of the worlds
\n<\/span>AND TO<\/span>
\n<\/span>Mohammad\u2013who brought the world
\n<\/span>to our feet and eternity to our arms.
\n<\/span>*<\/span><\/p>\n

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\n<\/span>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 (See also Islam-and lying<\/a><\/span>)
\nWhile, understandably, a person can lie about his belief in God to save himself from suffering or being killed.
\nChristians have authority from their God, Son of God (Jesus) and their Saint (Paul) to lie\/deceive in all matters to save themselves and spreading their fake religion.<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n

1. Christians have authority from their God to lie\/deceive:
\n<\/span>In 1 Kings chapter 22, King Ahab wanted to know if he would be successful in the battle of Ramoth-gilead. Confused, because he was getting conflicting answers from his \u201cprophets,\u201d King Ahab summoned Micaiah, even though he disliked Micaiah because the latter does not give him favorable answers. Micaiah prophesied that king Ahab would be killed and the Israelites defeated\u2013(22:17).
\nThis upset King Ahab. He wanted to know how it is that he gets conflicting answers from his prophets and Micaiah. Micaiah replied that he had a vision of the Court of God about God asking which one of his spirits will tell King Ahab that he must go to battle and be killed. The spirits all came up with one story or the other to convince King Ahab. Then one clever spirit elected to do the job by being a \u201clying spirit in the mouth of all these prophets. And he (God) said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth and do so. Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a LYING spirit in the mouth of all these prophets, and the LORD hath spoken EVIL concerning thee\u201d\u2013(22:17-23.<\/span> Incidentally, Micaiah was sent to prison for his prophecy. King Ahab was killed in accordance with the decree of God as prophesied by Micaiah).
\nAs Christians say Jesus is God this is what Jesus allowed \u2013to lie\/deceive.<\/p>\n

2. Christians have authority from their Son of God, Jesus to lie\/deceive:
\n<\/span>Jesus counsels his followers:
\n\u201cAgree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison\u201d\u2013(Matt.5:25). <\/span>Wonder what Nelson Mandela, modern-day anti-Apartheid icon, would say about this dictum: he may have saved himself thirty years jail; and his brother-in-cause, Steve Biko, may be alive; and South Africa may still be in \u201cprison\u201d\u2013Apartheid).<\/p>\n

So for fear of imprisonment<\/em>, a Christian must agree to frame an innocent man for murder and send him to the gallows. The Christian nations that acquiesced to or supported German invasion were only following Jesus\u2019 precept to \u201cagree\u201d with their \u201cadversary.\u201d And Christian individuals who handed Jews over to the Germans should be honored for obeying Jesus to \u201cagree\u201d with their adversary.
\n(Perhaps this is why the Vatican was silent during Hitler\u2019s reign, for fear of violating Jesus\u2019 decree to agree with the adversary. Jesus says in Luke 19:27 and Matthew 12:30: “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me” and\u00a0<\/span><\/span>“He that is not with me is against me”, \u00a0p<\/span><\/span>erhaps these also are reasons why the Vatican was silent when \u201cChristian\u201d Europe was being purged of Jewish presence).<\/span><\/p>\n

Jesus saying to agree with the \u201cadversary\u201d could not be about, or restricted to, a law-suit (Jesus clearly says to give the suer<\/em> your cloak as well as coat\u2013Matthew 5:40). \u00a0<\/span>A suer<\/em> would not necessarily receive judgment in his favor so that one would have to agree with him.
\nThis injunction of Jesus gives Christians a hole so big to accommodate every conceivable lie and deception and for any situation that the battleships Iowa Jima and Lincoln can sail side by side through it. And with mega space to spare. With this permission Christians can even frame an innocent person all the way to the executioner\u2019s needle just so they would not be thrown in jail.
\nSure the Bible says not to bear false witness, but clearly this is superseded by Jesus (who is said to be son of God and even \u201cGod\u201d) for \u201cChristians\u201d to have no borders when it comes to saving their hide. Moreover, Jesus came some five hundred years AFTER <\/strong>Moses.<\/p>\n

Jesus lied; telling his followers: \u201cGo ye up unto this feast, for my time is not yet full come,\u201d<\/strong> \u201cBut when his brethren were gone up, then went he also<\/strong> up unto the feast, not openly<\/strong>, but as it were in secret<\/strong>\u201d\u2013(John 7:8-10).
\n<\/span>Clearly, Jesus did not want to go with his followers (because he was fearful, likely because he knew the Jews were out to kill him and would be easily observed in the company of his followers who were commonly known)<\/span> and lied that he would be going later; but soon as they had gone from him he left for the feast: \u201cBut when his brethren were gone up, then went he also.\u201d
\n<\/strong><\/span>It is an absurdity to claim that Jesus was saying \u00a0\u201cI am not going,\u201d but mean \u201cI am not going yet\u201d (as one Christian apologetic claims)<\/span> seeing that Jesus <\/span>\u201calso\u201d<\/strong> went but in secret. \u00a0Clearly, Jesus did want to be in their company: \u201c<\/span><\/span>then went he also<\/strong> up unto the feast, <\/span>not openly<\/strong>, but as it were <\/span>in secret.<\/strong>\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

3. Christians have authority from their Saint, Paul, to lie\/deceive:<\/span>
\nPaul says,
\n\u201c<\/sup><\/strong>And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.\u00a0<\/sup><\/strong>But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile\u201d<\/strong>\u2013(2 Corinthians 12:15-16,<\/span> There are many \u201cversions\u201d of the Bible some of which try to obfuscate that Paul says \u201cbeing crafty, I caught you with guile\u201d1<\/sup><\/span>).
\n\u201cFor if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie<\/em> <\/strong>unto his glory; why yet am I also judged a sinner?\u201d\u2013(1 Corinthians 7:25; Romans 3:7.<\/span> \u00a0It is not \u201cfaithfulness\u201d to forge in the name of God and to have people glorify God through lies. God calls man to belief through \u201creason\u201d and truth, not through deception and \u201clie.\u201d One who propagates Godliness through \u201cguile\u201d and \u201clie\u201d could not be apostle of Christ, much more messenger of God. See All\u0101h and Jesus or Paul<\/a><\/span>).<\/p>\n

Perhaps it is this un<\/em>-principle of Paul to \u201clie\u201d that lead Christians to retain forged verses in the Bible and to keep such materials as \u201cvirgin\u201d of virgin birth and \u201cbegotten\u201d of \u201cbegotten son,\u201d etc; in their 1500 non-English Bibles that they have expunged from English ones. Ahmed Deedat has shown in his booklet Is the Bible God\u2019s Word?<\/em><\/p>\n