{"id":112,"date":"2015-02-25T20:18:02","date_gmt":"2015-02-25T20:18:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/azmi.co\/cust\/ngba-wp\/?page_id=112"},"modified":"2023-09-18T16:17:17","modified_gmt":"2023-09-18T16:17:17","slug":"vegetarianism","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=112","title":{"rendered":"Hinduism-Vegetarianism"},"content":{"rendered":"

In the name of All\u0101h,
\n<\/span>the Beneficent, the Merciful.
\n<\/span>Peace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.
\n<\/span>DEDICATED TO
\n<\/span>All\u0101h\u2013the Glorious and the High,
\n<\/span>Lord of the worlds
\n<\/span>AND TO
\n<\/span>Mohammad\u2013who brought the world
\n<\/span>to our feet and eternity to our arms.
\n<\/span>*<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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\n<\/span><\/span>Whereas, in India, Hindus menace and even kill Muslims for killing cows for food. It is observed that India is one of the biggest exporters of beef: <\/span>“About 1.5 million metric tons<\/strong> of Carcass Weight Equivalent (CWE) of beef and veal were exported from India in 2022. The CWE of beef and veal is likely to be 1.5 million metric tons in 2023, and stood third in terms of production volume in the world.\u00a0Dec 1, 2022.” Google<\/em>, Color added).<\/span>
\nSo, the meat is not good to eat, but the broth (money) is good to drink (take). So who kill the cows for Hindus\/India?<\/span><\/p>\n

Did God enjoin vegetarianism or are those who condemn the killing of animals for consumption promoting themselves as being more \u201cethical\u201d and civil than God?
\n<\/span>Whereas animals are to be fed wholesome diets and raised humanely, there is no Divine ordinance forbidding eating animals. The Bible, Qur\u2019an, Mahabharata, Bhagavad-Gita, Ramayana and RgVeda, allow killing and eating animals.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 -Animal killing in the Bible:<\/span> \u201cEvery moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat\u201d\u2013(Genesis 9:3-4. This is only a general statement See Leviticus chapter 11 and Deuteronomy chapters 12 and 14 for details on allowance and forbiddance).
\n<\/span>\u00a0\u00a0 Killing animal(s) is allowed for atonement\u2013(Leviticus 1:1-9); and as proof of innocence of murder, in which (they) \u201cshall strike off the heifer\u2019s neck there in the valley\u201d\u2013(Deut. 21:1-9).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 –<\/strong>Animal killing in the Qur\u2019an:
\n<\/span>\u00a0 \u00a0-\u201c<\/strong>O men, eat the lawful and good things from what is in the earth\u2026.He (All\u0101h) has forbidden you only what dies of itself, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that over which\u00a0any other (name) than (that of) All\u0101h has been invoked. Then whoever is\u00a0driven by necessity, not desiring, nor\u00a0exceeding the limit, no sin is upon him.\u00a0Surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful\u201d-(Qur\u2019an 2:168-173)<\/span>
\n\u00a0-\u201c<\/strong>And of the cattle (He has created) some for burden and some for slaughter. Eat of that which All\u0101h has given you\u00a0and follow not the footsteps of the devil.\u00a0Surely he is your open enemy\u201d-(Qur\u2019an 6:142; 16:114-115)<\/span>
\nAll\u0101h tells us the kind of meat we are allowed to eat. Not that we are to eat the entire animal at one sitting. We are to balance meat and vegetables \u2013vegetables also are of the \u201cgood things\u201d that are in the earth. It is doubtful that a person will develop heart-disease from eating 2-3 ounces of lean beef\/meat three\/four times a week or even eating this amount daily.
\n<\/span>
\nInterestingly, whereas veganites have low cholesterol and heart disease, a tour on the Internet<\/em> shows that vegetarians are not the healthiest people and they tend to suffer other illnesses than meatarians. Including mental illness.<\/span>
\nEqually significant,\u00a0 report has shown that non-meat burgers contain FOUR TIMES MORE sodium than beef and may also contain HIGHER LEVELS of saturated fat; also that meat-free burgers and other vegan foods are mostly “derivative” ingredients of plants instead of whole vegetables; the report also notes that vegan food products lose important nutrients in processing.<\/span>
\nhttps:\/\/www.mensjournal.com\/food-drink\/great-veggie-burgers-are-here-but-are-they-any-healthier-w449490\/ (If link does not connect please copy and paste). (KEEP THE FAKE BEEF; GIVE ME THE REAL BIT).
\n<\/span><\/span>
\nSeemingly, the best diet would be a balance of lean meat, skinless poultry, fish, vegetables and whole grains. And in moderation. Prophet Mohammad is reported to have said that (noting from memory) The worst vessel the son of Adam can fill is his stomach; <\/span>and that one-third of the stomach is for food, one-third for drink, and one third for air.\u00a0<\/span><\/span>
\nNo, you do not have to measure your stomach. A person in tune with his body should be able to tell how full his stomach is.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/em>\u00a0-Animal killing in the Mahabharata. <\/span>Jawaharlal Nehru states: \u201cThe eating of beef, previously countenanced, is later absolutely prohibited. In the Mahabharata there are references to beef or veal being offered to honoured guests\u201d\u2013(The Discovery of India<\/em>, p.108).<\/span>
\n(This prohibition may have been instituted by Buddha;<\/span> Swami Prabhupada states in his commentary to Bhagavad-Gita As It Is<\/em>\u00a0 (4:7): \u201cLord Buddha is the incarnation of Krsna…..Although there are certain restrictive rules and regulations regarding animal sacrifice for particular purposes in the Vedas<\/em>, people of demonic tendency still took to animal sacrifice without reference to the Vedic principles. Lord Buddha appeared to stop this nonsense and to establish the Vedic principles of non-violence.\u201d<\/span>
\nSeems that Buddha only put an end to sacrifices that were \u201cwithout reference to the Vedic principles.\u201d It is unlikely that Buddha would criticize or prohibit an ordinance of God).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 –<\/strong>Animal killing in the Bhagavad-Gita.<\/span> Swami Prabhupada, commenting on the Bhagavad-Gita As It Is<\/em> 18:3, states: \u201cAlthough animal killing in a sacrifice is recommended in the Vedic literature, the animal is not considered to be killed.\u00a0 The sacrifice is to give a new life to the animal. Sometimes the animal is given a new animal life after being killed in the sacrifice, and sometimes the animal is promoted immediately to the human form of life.\u201d<\/span>
\nIn which event the Muslims annual sacrifice of Eid-ul-Adha<\/em> might be doing a tremendous good to millions of souls trapped in animal forms by freeing them \u201cimmediately to the human form of life.\u201d<\/span>
\nThis sacrificing of animals cannot be restricted to Hinduism; Hindus say that Ishwar\u00a0 and All\u0101h are two names of the same God, though Ishwar did not reveal\u00a0Karma and Reincarnation<\/a><\/span>.<\/span>\u00a0\u00a0(As the Qur\u2019an sanctions the slaughter of animals for food, Hindus opposing the eating of meat would be opposing Ishwar).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0-Animal killing in the Ramayana:<\/span> Rama and his brother, \u201ckilled four large animals \u2013a boar, an antelope, a gazelle, and a great black buck. They were famished and took meat hurriedly;\u201d they also \u201ckilled many animals such as are pure to consume and ate them in a grove by the Yamuna.\u201d (Sheldon I. Pollock, The Ramayana of Valmiki<\/em>, Vol; I, pp. 183, 190).\u00a0(Given that Hindus say Rama is God then, God killed animals and ate meat. And as Rama is said to be an incarnate (avatar) of the God Vishnu, then, by extension, Vishnu killed animals and ate meat)
\n<\/span>\u00a0\u00a0 About Rama killing animals and eating meat, C. Rajagopalachari states, \u201cSome good men are troubled by this. But meat was not prohibited for Kshatriyas. Indeed, it has always been the rule in India<\/em><\/span> to permit any food legitimately obtained and consecrated as a sacrifice. Rama was a Kshatriya and he lived in the forest in the Kshatriya way, though abstemiously.\u201d (Ramayana<\/em>, p. 90. Italics added). <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 In some parts of India \u201cgramadevatas\u201d (village deities) <\/em>are appeased with \u201canimal sacrifices as a way of warding off and removing epidemics, crop failures, and other natural disasters.\u201d (Ency. Brit.<\/em> 15th<\/sup> edn; art. gramadevata<\/em>, Vol. IV, p. 667.<\/span>
\nGoats are \u201csacrificed\u201d to the goddess Kali \u201cdaily.\u201d And \u201cto avert cattle epidemics a bull is sacrificed to Rudra\u201d (who is Shiva in another form). (Hamlyn, Man and his Gods<\/em>, p. 180.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0 -Animal killing in the RgVeda:<\/span> In Rig Veda (X. 86.14) Indra says: \u201cThey cook for one 15 plus twenty oxen.\u201d The Rig Veda (X.91.14) says that for Agni were sacrificed horses, bulls, oxen, barren cows and rams. From the Rig Veda (X.72.6) it appears that the cow was killed with a sword or axe: https:\/\/www.countercurrents.org\/ ambedkar050315.htm<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

(Quotes from the Rig Veda are taken from Ralph T. H. Griffith, Hymns Of The RgVeda<\/em>, Volumes I and II. Reference to quotes such as, X. LXXVI. 13-14. Vol. 2, p. 548, indicates that the quote is taken from Book X, Hymn LXXVI verses 13-14, of Volume 2, p. 548)<\/span><\/p>\n

(Cow\/ox sacrifice):<\/span>
\n\u201cWealthy Vrsakapayi\u2026.<\/span>
\nIndra will eat thy bulls, thy<\/span>
\ndear oblation that effecteth much.<\/span>
\nSupreme is Indra over all.<\/span>
\nFifteen in number, then, for me a<\/span>
\nscore of bullocks they prepare, and<\/span>
\nI devour the fat thereof:<\/span>
\nthey fill my belly full with food. \u2026\u201d<\/span>
\n(X. LXXVI. 13-14. Vol. 2, p. 548)<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The Rig Veda, I. CLXII. 1-22. Vol. 1, pp. 227-230 speaks of goat and horse sacrifice:<\/span>
\n3.<\/span> Dear to all Gods, this goat, the share of Pusan, is first led forward with the vigorous Courser, While Tvastar sends him forward with the Charger, acceptable for sacrifice, to glory.<\/span>
\n\u00a0 \u00a04.<\/span> When thrice the men lead round the Steed, in order, who goeth to the Gods as meet oblation, The goat precedeth him, the share of Pusan, and to the Gods \u00a0the sacrifice announceth.<\/span>
\n \u00a09.<\/span> What part of the Steed\u2019s flesh the fly hath eaten, or is left sticking to the post or hatchet, Or to the slayer\u2019s hands and nails adhereth,\u2013among the Gods, too, may all this be with thee.<\/span>
\n10.<\/span> Food undigested steaming from his belly, and any odour of raw flesh remaining, This let the immolators set in order and dress the sacrifice with perfect cooking.<\/span>
\n12.<\/span> They who observing that the Horse is ready call out and say, the smell is good; remove it; And, craving meat, await the distribution,\u2013may their approving help promote our labour.<\/span>
\n 18.<\/span> The four-and-thirty ribs of the swift Charger, kin to the Gods, the slayer\u2019s hatchet pierces. Cut ye with skill, so that the parts be flawless, and piece by piece declaring them dissect them.<\/span>
\n\u00a021.<\/span> No, here thou diest not, thou art not injured: by easy paths unto the Gods thou goest. Both bays, both spotted mares are now thy fellows, and to the ass\u2019s pole is yoked the Charger.<\/span>
\n22.<\/span> May this Steed bring us all-sustaining riches, wealth in good kine, good horses, manly offspring. Freedom from sin may Aditi vouchsafe us: the Steed with our oblations gain us lordship!\u201d<\/span>
\n(Notably, verse 21 above says that in this sacrifice, the horse is \u201cnot injured.\u201d So when Hindus kill animals they are \u201cnot injured,\u201d but when Muslims kill\/ sacrifice\u00a0 animals they are injured?<\/span><\/p>\n

Regarding this horse sacrifice. In his Ramayana<\/em>, C. Rajagopalachari records Rama as saying to Guha: \u201cI must not touch dishes daintily cooked and served. We have to live only on fruits, roots and permissible kinds of meat such as we offer in the sacrificial fire.\u201d\u2013p. 88).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0There are some who quote the RgVeda to show that it does not allow killing\/eating cow\/beef. So which is the correct view \u2013to kill\/eat the cow\/beef or to not kill\/eat the cow\/beef?
\nThat the RgVeda does not sanction eating beef is incorrect; Dr. Ambedkar explains:<\/span><\/p>\n

\u201cSo far as the evidence from the Rig Veda is concerned the conclusion is based on a misreading and misunderstanding of the texts. The adjective Aghnya applied to the cow in the Rig\u00a0 Veda means a cow that was yielding milk and therefore not fit for being killed. That the cow is venerated in the Rig Veda is of\u00a0 course true. But this regard and veneration of the cow are only to be expected from an agricultural community like the Indo-Aryans.\u00a0 This application of the utility of the cow did not prevent the Aryan from killing the cow for purposes of food. Indeed, the cow was killed because the cow was regarded as sacred.<\/span> As\u00a0 observed by Mr. Kane: “It was not that the \u00a0 cow was not sacred in Vedic times, it was because of her sacredness that it is ordained in the Vajasaneyi Samhita that beef should be eaten.<\/span>\u201d (Dharma Shastra Vichar in Marathi, p.180).” (Color added)<\/span>
\nhttps:\/\/www.countercurrents.org\/ambedkar050315.htm <\/a><\/span>(If link does not connect please copy and paste. Thank you)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 The ideal situation could not be \u201cvegetarianism\u201d seeing that God had \u201crespect\u201d for Abel\u2019s animal offering and \u201chad not respect\u201d for Cain\u2019s \u201cfruit\u201d offering\u201d\u2013(Genesis 4:1-5).<\/span>
\nUnless the veganites who condemn killing and eating of animals are atheists they are promoting themselves to be more \u201cethical\u201d and civil than their God.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Since there is no Divine injunction for vegetarianism; from where\/who did the practice originate? No one seems to know:<\/span>
\nAccording to Anoop Chandola, \u201cThe Dravidians are conjectured to have added such aspects as yoga, puja<\/em>\u2026.vegetarianism<\/em><\/span>\u201d\u2013(The Way To True Worship<\/em>, p. 8.\u00a0 Italics\/emphasis added).<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0\u00a0 Since the Veda, Gita, and Ramayana allow animal sacrifice\/killing, and since Hindus\/ksatriyas are \u201cnot prohibited\u201d from eating cow\/meat, what is the religious basis for vegetarianism in Hinduism?<\/span>
\n\u00a0 \u00a0Swami Dayananda Saraswati seems to supply the answer, he wrote:\u00a0 \u201cThe Aryas <\/em>should neither themselves kill such useful animals as cows, nor let others do the same (as cows give milk and calves)\u2026.\u201cTherefore, it is that the Aryas<\/em> have always regarded the cow as the most useful animal\u201d\u2013(Light Of Truth<\/em>, pp. 321-322.<\/span> What about bulls? And cows that have passed the stage of calving and milking? As noted, Only milk-yielding cows were not to be killed<\/span>)..<\/span>
\nHinduism\u2019s vegetarianism is rooted in economy not in \u00a0theology.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

In contrast to vegetarianism, animal sacrifice is pleasing to God. When Noah, after the Flood, \u201coffered burnt offerings\u201d \u201cof every clean beast, and of every clean fowl\u201d \u201c<\/strong>the Lord smelled a <\/span>SWEET SAVOUR<\/span>\u201d<\/span>\u2013<\/strong>(Genesis 8:20-21). So\u00a0\u00a0\u201cEMBRACE \u00a0HEAVEN!\u00a0 EAT \u00a0BEEF!\u201d
\nKEEP YOUR FAKE BEEF; GIVE ME THE REAL BIT.<\/span><\/span>
\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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