{"id":103,"date":"2015-02-25T20:00:33","date_gmt":"2015-02-25T20:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/azmi.co\/cust\/ngba-wp\/?page_id=103"},"modified":"2015-02-25T20:00:33","modified_gmt":"2015-02-25T20:00:33","slug":"christians-drinking-deadly-thing","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/nogodbutallah.org\/?page_id=103","title":{"rendered":"CHRISTIANS-DRINKING DEADLY THING"},"content":{"rendered":"

\n\tIn the name of All\u0101h,<\/span>
\n\tthe Beneficent, the Merciful.<\/span>
\n\tPeace and Blessings of All\u0101h on Mohammad.<\/span>
\n\tDEDICATED TO<\/span>
\n\tAll\u0101h–the Glorious and the High,<\/span>
\n\tLord of the worlds<\/span>
\n\tAND TO<\/span>
\n\tMohammad–who brought the world<\/span>
\n\tto our feet and eternity to our arms<\/span> .
\n\t*<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t        CHRISTIANS <\/span><\/span><\/span>DRINKING DEADLY THING<\/span><\/span><\/span>
\n\tRegarding the statement of Jesus in Mark 16:16-18: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved…and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them,”<\/span> one Christian apologist wrote:<\/span>
\n\t   “The Muslim is guilty of misinterpreting Jesus' meaning in this passage since a sound rule of exegesis is to interpret scripture in light of scripture. Once this is done, we discover the true meaning of Jesus' words: <\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t"The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 'If you are the Son of God,' he said, 'throw yourself down from here. For it is written: "He will command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone."' Jesus answered, 'It says: "Do not put the Lord your God to the test<\/strong>."'" Luke 4:9-12 <\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tIn light of this passage, Jesus was not telling his followers to go around picking up snakes or drinking poison. Christ's point was that no matter what the enemy tries to do in thwarting the efforts of the believers, he will never succeed. This is based solely on the promises of Christ that his authority rests upon all true believers to accomplish his will in our lives: <\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t"'The seventy-two returned with joy and said, 'Lord, even the demons submit to us in your name<\/strong>.' He replied, 'I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you<\/strong>. However, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.'" Luke 10:17-20”<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t  Response:<\/span><\/span><\/i><\/span> This is typical Christian-crud. What is a metaphorical “deadly thing” that one drinks? Can anyone put God to “test”?
\n\t   And if it is written that God said "He will command his angels”<\/span> to safeguard Jesus and if Jesus asked God to fulfill His promise and protect him how is this putting God “to the test?” Wasn’t Jesus certain that God would keep His word or did he not trust God? (And if Jesus is God then Jesus did not want to put himself “to the test”).<\/span><\/span>
\n\t   If asking God for help is to put God to “the test” how is it that Jesus asked God to be spared from death?–(Matthew 26:39). Was jesus putting God to "the test"?
\n\t   Why did Jesus ask God to forgive those who nailed him to the “pole”–(Luke 23:34). Was Jesus putting God to "the  test"? (Incidentally<\/span>, since Jesus had power to forgive sins, why ask God to forgive them?–Luke 5:24. And if Jesus is God, God asked Himself to forgive them). <\/span>
\n\t   And, didn’t Jesus tell his people to pray to God for their daily bread and to ask and it shall be given them and that “in ALL things whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive”?<\/span>  Were Jesus' followers who prayed to God and asked God putting God “to the test”? And was Jesus instructing his followers to put God to "the test"?–(Matt. 6:9-11; 7:7; 21:22).<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t   Since “a sound rule of exegesis is to interpret scripture in light of scripture,”<\/span> how is it that Christians interpret Jesus’ CLEAR teachings that he was sent <\/span>only for Jews<\/font><\/span><\/a> <\/span> and that eternal life lies in following the Mosaic Law (until the coming of the <\/span>Comforter<\/font><\/span><\/a> who will guide into “all truth” and “abide for ever), how is it that Christians take these clear teachings of Jesus  to mean that mankind <\/span>inherited sin<\/font><\/span><\/a> from Adam and that Jesus is only "begotten" <\/span>son of God<\/font><\/span><\/a> sent by God to be killed\/scapegoat for this (non-existent) sin?
\n\t    Since “a sound rule of exegesis is to interpret scripture in light of scripture,” <\/span>how is it that Christians take Jesus’ clear statements that he was SENT by God and that he does only according to what GOD commands to mean that <\/span>Jesus is God<\/font><\/span><\/a>–that God went into the belly of a woman He created and came out her vagina and had Himself circumcised? <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t   That Jesus answered the Devil: "Do not put the Lord your God to the test<\/strong>"'" Luke 4:9-12, this has no relevancy to Jesus saying “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved…and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them.” <\/span>If the drinking of deadly thing is metaphorical then these “that believeth and is baptized” <\/span>must also be metaphorical. <\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t   Jesus gave his followers power against harm from poisonous creatures much as he gave them power to forgive sins–(John 20:23); and gave them power to “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have RECEIVED, freely GIVE”–(Matt. 10:8). 
\n\t   One cannot receive and give “authority” “to trample” on metaphorical <\/strong>“snakes and scorpions” AND to overcome ALL the power of the enemy” and yet be told that “NOTHING WILL HARM YOU.”  <\/strong>The history of Christians is proof that Christians were<\/i> “harmed” by the “enemy” –many were fed to lions. <\/span>Does this mean that Christ lied to his followers or that Christ did not know what he was talking about? <\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t   In drinking this “deadly” thing Christians are not putting their God “to the test,” they are verifying their Son of God’s (and their God’s) dictum that so long as they “believe” and are “baptized” they “shall be saved” from Hell and if these believers “DRINK any DEADLY THING” these “deadly things” will not “harm” them. Here is Jesus’ full saying with comments in italics: <\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; and he that believeth not SHALL BE DAMNED (If drinking deadly things is metaphorical, then the DAMNING of the disbelievers must also be metaphorical: they do not have to worry about going to Hell, it is not real\/literal).<\/span><\/i> And these things shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues (let the Christian apologist explain Jesus’ followers metaphorical speaking “In Jesus’ name” and their metaphorical casting out devils and speaking new languages).<\/span> <\/i>They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them (What is a metaphorical “deadly thing” that one drinks?)<\/span><\/i>;<\/span> They shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover (let the Christian apologist explain the metaphorical laying of hands and the metaphorical recovery of the sick from their metaphorical sickness).”<\/span><\/i><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t   It would seem comical for Jesus to give his followers LITERAL “authority” over METAPHORICAL “serpents.”
\n\t   “The Muslim is” NOT “guilty of misinterpreting Jesus' meaning in this passage.” Muslims are <\/span>correct in “interpreting” Jesus' meaning.
\n\t   In contrast, Christians are the ones “guilty of misinterpreting Jesus' meaning.” Christians have somersaulted Jesus’ clear teachings: desecrated Godhood with their invention of <\/span>trinity<\/font><\/span><\/a>; <\/span>and ascribed injustice to God and made God complicit in murder with their concoction of <\/span>inherited sin<\/font><\/span><\/a> and vicarious atonement.<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t   The Christian apologist’s claim that “Christ's point was that no matter what the enemy tries to do in thwarting the efforts of the believers, he will never succeed. This is based solely on the promises of Christ that his authority rests upon all true believers to accomplish his will in our lives,” –this is a big joke.<\/span>
\n\t    The enemies of Christ –Satan, Constantine, and certain Christian fathers–<\/span> have<\/i><\/strong> been successful in “thwarting the efforts” of Christ’s true “believers” by instituting the "God-dishonouring" <\/span>trinity<\/font><\/span><\/a>, crowning Jesus as <\/span>God<\/font><\/span><\/a> and "begotten"  (physical)  <\/span>son of God<\/font><\/span><\/a>  and as vicarious atoner for <\/span>inherited sin<\/font><\/span><\/a>  (all of which were alien to Jesus and the Jews of Jesus’ time). <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t <\/span> However, Jesus did NOT tell his followers “if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them.” <\/span>These verses are “FORGERIES” in the <\/span>Bible<\/font><\/span><\/a>. Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din points out in his Open Letters To The Bishops of Salisbury & London,<\/i><\/span> (pp. 31-32): <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t“The concluding eleven verses of St. Mark-(16:9-20) and the well-known verse of St. Matthew-(28:19), speaking of the Son and the Father and the Holy Ghost, are forgeries, an admitted addition to the ancient MSS<\/span> (manuscripts). The fact was discovered by the first translator of the Bible into English and they made a marginal note in their version of the Bible which continued for some time. But we do not find the said note in any of the copies now published by the said society <\/span>(Foreign Mission Society). Is it fair and honest to keep others in darkness as to the true value of the contents of the Bible?<\/span> The reader must know thatconcluding portion of St. Mark and the verse in St. Matthew are spurious and a subsequent addition. But I am afraid the Foreign Mission would not allow the correction. It would tell against their very Mission, if they eliminate the verse from St. Matthew; they lose the only pillar that supports the structure of the Trinity.<\/span> No other verse in the whole Scripture speaks of it. The said eleven verses of St. Mark are the only justification for the existence of the Foreign Mission. You, as well as I, know, my Lord, that the call to Jesus came solely and wholly from Judaism. He came only to gather the scattered sheep and would not give the children’s bread to the dogs, the world beyond the Israelites. The Foreign Mission is a mere trespass on lands forbidden by the Master. It transcends the limit marked by Jesus. <\/span>Throughout his life the Gentiles and others did not concern him: they were the swine. Then came the make-believe Resurrection,<\/span> and they say the Master changed his mind as to his mission and ordered it to be carried to the four corners of the world (indicating that he was unsure of his mission)<\/span><\/i>,<\/span> but this all depends upon the questionable verses of St. Mark, and hence their retention in the Bible.<\/span> St. Matthew is no authority on this point. The word “nations” there is a mistranslation and a wrong substitute for “the tribes”–the rest of the Jewish tribes scattered all over the world. This being the case, the Mission cannot afford to eliminate the verses from their version, nor will they put marginal notes, as did the old versions, to show the true nature of the verses.1<\/span><\/sup> It would weaken the cause and show the futility of their status, since in carrying on evangelical work in the non-Christian world they are acting against the express admonition of the Master. It may be that reasons other than religion are at the back of it all, and goading their activities, but decency, if not religion, assuredly demands the publishing of things as they are.” <\/span>
\n\t   (Even if Jesus had said to teach the Gospels to all nations, yet this would not make Jesus <\/span><\/span><\/span>God<\/font><\/span><\/a> or <\/span><\/span>son of God<\/font><\/span><\/a> or one in a <\/span><\/span>trinity<\/font><\/span><\/a> with God or vicarious atoner or that mankind <\/span><\/span><\/span>inherited sin<\/font><\/span><\/a> from Adam\/Eve. These cardinal doctrines of  <\/span><\/span><\/span>Christianity<\/font><\/span><\/a>  are lies, falsehood, and blasphemy. <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t <\/span>  However, since Christians say that Jesus is God and Son of God and the Bible is “all” “Word of God” Christians must put their dignity where their mouths are and drink this “deadly thing.”
\n\t   If Christians truly believe that Jesus is God and Son of God and the Bible is “all” “Word of God” they will have no reluctance or hesitancy to drink this “deadly thing.”
\n\t  Surely to demonstrate their “Word of God” and trust in their God and “Son of God” is the highest of beliefs. <\/span>
\n\t <\/span> It is scandalous that Christians are not clamoring to honor this “truth” of Jesus. After all, if this “deadly thing” does not hurt them they can boast that Jesus spoke the truth. And if they die, well, they will get to sit with Jesus sooner “on the right hand of God”–(Mark 16:19).<\/span>
\n\t <\/span>  That the Bible is NOT “all” Word of God see <\/span>Bible corrupt & obsolete<\/font><\/span><\/a>
\n\t                                                               *<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\tExcept for Muslims who believe in Christ in his true status and mission, Christ has no followers today. The some two billion who call themselves Christians are so only in name, Jesus Christ is only a figurehead in the Church. Christianity may rightly be named Churchianity<\/i> or Paulianity;<\/i> and adherents named Churchians <\/i>or Paulians.
\n\t   <\/i>Christians are following  <\/span>Paul<\/font><\/span><\/a> and his pagan ‘son of God,’ they are not following God and His Christ.<\/span>
\n\t   Rather than accept and follow Divine truth, the Christian apologist engages in all manner of verbal gymnastics to pacify himself and fellow Christians who revel in blind faith (and to hoodwink uneducated and unthinking people into eating the body and drinking the mythical blood of Jesus Christ<\/span>–<\/span>SPIRITUAL CANNIBALISM<\/span>).<\/span><\/span>
\n\t   Jesus says you shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free (from lies, falsehood, and blasphemy). And the Divine truth is, Jesus was a prophet of God sent <\/span><\/span><\/font>only for Jews<\/span><\/a> and to foretell the coming of the Comforter<\/span><\/a> who will guide into “all truth” and will “abide forever” and whom all are to follow; and
\n\t                        “THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALL\u0100H; <\/span>
\n\t            MOHAMMAD IS THE MESSENGER OF ALL\u0100H!”<\/span><\/span><\/span> <\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t*<\/span><\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t <\/span>NOTES<\/span>\n<\/p>\n

\n\t 1.<\/span> Encyclopaedia Biblica<\/i>, p. 1880, Section G., Westcott and Hort, The New Testament in the Original Greek,<\/i> Appendix.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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